Soo.. can i use the ren standalone or not?

I just sold my 4000 and in a few months i'm gonna buy a new mpc. I would love to buy a new, supported mpc so the ren looks interesting, and from the i/o of the hardware it SEEMS like you can use it standalone, but every vid shows it being used with the software.

I'm not gonna lie, i'm not a fan of using the computer to create music, only when i'm done with all my sequences can i tolerate using them. Can i use the mpc ren as a standalone and have access to the typical mpc functions?

long as the usb is connected to a pc u can use the hardware standalone

...nope.

it's nothing but a controler...simple as that.

runs as a standalone application

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yDrDOPonno

thanks for the replies fellas. If i can plug it into a laptop, work from the flipscreen, and ignore the laptop it may be ok. I'll keep using my homies jjos 1000 until then

reeloy wrote:...nope.

it's nothing but a controler...simple as that.

well - i guess why would i be interested in it?

i got an mpc because i dont like working on computers.

simples.

i do wish them well with it though....

Personally, if I am not interested in a product...I wouldn't post or even visit a forum dedicated to it.

You cannot use the Ren standalone.
I repeat: You cannot use the Ren standalone.
if you could've then the ads would have said so.
I appreciate that there might be some discussion over what is standalone. I'm defining it as not needing any other equipment to get it started and use it.
For the moment, I'll stick with my 3000. I'm interested in the emulation feature being promised.
But currently: the mpc Ren, which looks like a well-designed, promising bit of kit is not on my radar.
This may change.

zippertafari wrote:You cannot use the Ren standalone.
I repeat: You cannot use the Ren standalone.
if you could've then the ads would have said so.
I appreciate that there might be some discussion over what is standalone. I'm defining it as not needing any other equipment to get it started and use it.
For the moment, I'll stick with my 3000. I'm interested in the emulation feature being promised.
But currently: the mpc Ren, which looks like a well-designed, promising bit of kit is not on my radar.
This may change.

In the video they are talking about as a standalone application on your computer. Meaning you don't need a DAW to host it.

You can stand alone with the Ren or you can sit on it. It doesn't matter.

DJ Hellfire wrote:In the video they are talking about as a standalone application on your computer. Meaning you don't need a DAW to host it.

If its connected to your computer, then I don't consider it standalone.
They can phrase it however they wish. I think its just "clever" marketing.

Yah that part seems kind of vague to me, but what I'm getting from the video is it's saying that you can sample into and assign everything without having to use a DAW or the program that it comes with. It does seem that it can do everything without the computer, but maybe not save to compact flash or something. Maybe you just have to save to the computer.

You mean "sneaky" marketing.

When you buy a printer, it says on the box that it can function with a computer or operate stand-alone, meaning that YOU DON'T NEED A COMPUTER.

People better coin their phrases right.

zippertafari wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:In the video they are talking about as a standalone application on your computer. Meaning you don't need a DAW to host it.

If its connected to your computer, then I don't consider it standalone.
They can phrase it however they wish. I think its just "clever" marketing.

Doesn't matter what you consider it. It just is what it is. He didn't use any "clever" marketing phrases. It's a common term used for software production apps. For example, with Reason, you can use it as a standalone application (keyword application), or you can use your DAW to host it via rewire. The MPC software will operate the exact same way, as many other production programs do. He explicitly said "Standalone application." Don't blame them because you are ignorant to the terminology used.

DJ Hellfire wrote:Don't blame them because you are ignorant to the terminology used.

come on now A LOT of people are making this same misinterpretation and i dont think that it's fair to call that ignorant. you are right, an app can be standalone too but (and i dont think they said it on purpose), the whole term is throwing a lot of people off.

probably because a lot of people do want it to be 'standalone' as in un-tethered. i dont think this is ignorance as i do think the situation is a little confusing.

ive said it before i think changing the 'c' to 'controller' is going to cause this exact kind of confusion but i mean they bought the name might as well use it.