Computer Power vs. MPC hardware Power?

DJ Hellfire wrote:Oh no, no external modules! I also never use midi clock. I always use MTC.

I know what you meant by the other task. But those tasks, at least on my system, account for such a small percentage of usage on the cpu/ram that I can't see how it would affect midi. I guess if you have a bunch of other effects going at the same time I could see. But I keep it mostly ITB and it's super solid for me!

So what happens with your sequencing? It just get's sloppy?

tapedeck wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:Oh no, no external modules! I also never use midi clock. I always use MTC.

I know what you meant by the other task. But those tasks, at least on my system, account for such a small percentage of usage on the cpu/ram that I can't see how it would affect midi. I guess if you have a bunch of other effects going at the same time I could see. But I keep it mostly ITB and it's super solid for me!

So what happens with your sequencing? It just get's sloppy?

yes, the midi sequencing is just 'sloppy' is the best term to describe it.
and again, when i am talking about 'other things running'...im not talking about anything you have control over! your system, my system, it doesn't matter - it's every system.

im talking really really really low level stuff that the computer does somewhat automatically, before it even thinks about doing ANYTHING else that you have or have not told it to do. im not talking about processes running in the background and virus scanners and shit like that - im talking about a stock, brand new, empty os with nothing on it but a daw - there are still things that the computer will do BEFORE it will work with midi. im getting into more detail than i am knowledgeable on here, but im talking basic stuff like updating the mouse pointer on your screen, making sure the cpu isn't frying, checking the battery status, etc...again im just giving you an idea of how much more work a computer cpu has to run - my specific details might be off but suffice it to say, anything you tell the computer to do comes after anything it decides it needs to do on it's own, that you have little control over.

tapedeck wrote:we're definitely straying into areas im not expert in, but no, im thinking even more low level than task manager...key concept here is beyond the users' control / knowledge.

and im not talking cpu %, and im not talking ram.
percent cpu used and amount of ram used is meaningless if the computer says 'i dont care what you are doing, im going to do x first before i do y'....and y is what you are asking it to do.

see how power is almost irrelevant? its at the lowest level - what is the machine set up to handle, first. you might have all the cpu power in the world, but if the computer says, 'i need to send a midi message', but then says, 'i need to draw the mouse on the screen' - guess which one takes priority? again, my examples are probably flawed - someone with more knowledge could probably school us both.

on a dedicated midi device, midi is very very high priority. on a personal computer, midi and all those other tasks come way after everything else you don't see or have access to.

here is a bit of tech info in the first post on this page (even if the quotes are all off...what's up with that lately!?):
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=151890&start=120

strugglebuggiemusic wrote:Until they invent a helmet that reads our brain-waves and converts that into 64 bit audio files, our wildest dreams of pure sound and that elusive lost chord

And when that happens I'm inviting you over to my lab, we'll get drunk, "think up" some dope beats and laugh about this thread...You in?

Lampdog wrote:

strugglebuggiemusic wrote:Until they invent a helmet that reads our brain-waves and converts that into 64 bit audio files, our wildest dreams of pure sound and that elusive lost chord

And when that happens I'm inviting you over to my lab, we'll get drunk, "think up" some dope beats and laugh about this thread...You in?

Retrofreak wrote:I think music programs need their own streamlined OS.