Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By es-k Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:12 pm
only possible with mouse.

although not the biggest deal... lame? yes. def effects workflow and even though its a small speedbump, it just adds to the list of things not allowing you to use this mpc like a standalone hardware mpc (as the box claims)

hopefully addressed in 1.4, seems simple enough.
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By JAH Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:36 am
es-k wrote:....it just adds to the list of things not allowing you to use this mpc like a standalone hardware mpc (as the box claims)

hopefully addressed in 1.4, seems simple enough.

All standalone MPCs do not have this function....

I personally find it hilarious to say you can't use it like a standalone MPC because it doesn't accomplish xxx when there are numerous features that it can accomplish vastly superior to any hardware MPC.

Note that there are several hundred feature requests in this forum since 1.1.
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By es-k Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:40 am
Here we go again lol

Don't take me so seriously jah - let me correct myself.. The mpcs that I have used extensively --- Regardless , it effects workflow, it's really simple, and jah..... It DOES prevent you from using the mpc without the mouse And computer screen ... THIS is the point.. Once again, do you make songs with your ren?

And yes I like the added power of the computer - and I do like using the mouse for certain things, but this is one of those no brainer things that should be addressed if workflow is something that matters so much to akai. Once again I'm loving the ren and loving 1.3, just trying to help.

Workflow!!!!
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By es-k Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:50 am
oh and Jah ... i actually never said all mpcs could do that, i just said this...

def effects workflow and even though its a small speedbump, it just adds to the list of things not allowing you to use this mpc like a standalone hardware mpc (as the box claims)


MEANING - there's a function available that in NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM THE HARDWARE - "PREVENTING YOU FROM USING with full functionality LIKE A STANDALONE MPC" (without the computer)


and like ive said many many times now.. akai is still doing a good job.. the ren felt familiar right out of the box, and there are many more ways you CAN use the mpc like a standalone piece of hardware...

i hate how every time i say something constructive or give my own personal criticism of the ren i feel like i have to convince you that im not hating on the ren and that i actually like it...
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By JAH Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:13 pm
es-k wrote:Here we go again lol

Don't take me so seriously jah -


Ummm....that is why I said it was hilarious.

IF you are taking me so seriously...don't. It is not that deep. I just pointed out some facts whether you or anyone else knows them or not. You don't have to convince me of anything.

I didn't write that a particular feature is not needed...as I would like to see all functions available from the hardware to the greatest extent possible...

But when I see someone write "work flow killer" or "I can't use it like a hardware MPC"...I just get a good chuckle. Because hardware MPCs are not perfect thus there are thousands of feature requests from forum members that want them (hardware MPCs) to be better. The Ren also has as many feature requests. The edit zones is a no brainer? Truth be told, there are 100+ 'no brainers' discussed in this forum everyday......

I am just trying to have a friendly conversation....nothing I wrote should be perceived as insulting.
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By es-k Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:32 pm
cool

this isn't a rebuttal or argument - i just wanted to clear up a couple things (if akai reading)

fact remains - you cannot use the ren as advertised on the box ("pretend like computer isnt even there") and i just commented on this thread because its a prime example of a SIMPLE feature that prevents Akai from reaching its advertised goal.

so even though there are 100+ no brainer "FEATURE" requests.. this isnt just a feature thing, this is something that effects workflow regarding a feature thats already in the Ren.

thats all i meant by the fact that you cant use "like" a standalone mpc.. i do agreed with you of course.. it DOES have wayyy more features and is the most powerful MPC... im not forced to use the ren.. i CHOOSE to use ren, because of all these things.. so its not that im just being needy and wanting every single known music making software tool available to the ren.. BUT - there are no MPCs that have a function related to music making that you cant access from the hardware :lol:

this edit zones thing is the ONE time in many sessions where i have to over and over and over go to the mouse to switch from current to all or whatever.. like ill make a whole beat without the computer but i have to keep lookin over , grabbin the mouse and clickin all while goin back and forth through programs or tracks.. like ive said in other threads its not THAT big of a deal... but it does "matter" more than "new" feature requests... (to me, of course)

its a function that they made available to the ren, and its something regularly accessed during the music making process (especially with sample based music).. we should have seen this already.... the window key does NOTHING when in PGM EDIT .. sooo ..... edit zones??? :hmmm:
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By JAH Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:36 pm
There will most likely always be features the Ren has that wont be available from the hardware.
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By es-k Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:56 pm
I realize that - but this???

Window key while in pgm edit does nothing .

Editting fx and routing signals all that .. No prob doin that with a mouse - but simple things like this are a detriment to workflow and could be easily addressed.

We should be able to edit a program without using the mouse. Basic mpc functionality
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By JAH Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:24 pm
konc3pt wrote:
es-k wrote:Basic mpc functionality


:nod: :lol:

Here goes " ren does more than any hardware mpc" :lol:

Basic MPC functionality when most MPCs don't have this specific function? :hmmm:

And it does more than any hardware MPC. That is why you are glued to this forum more than any other. :nod: