ABILITY TO KEEP MORE THAN ONE VST PLUGIN OPEN AT ONE TIME

Really need this for mixing purposes....

Montebello wrote:Really need this for mixing purposes....

I just posted this as a request 6 hours ago

http://community.akaipro.com/akai_profe ... _at_a_time

Its also stupid that the Plugin GUI is going behind the Ren Software once you click it.

Related:
http://community.akaipro.com/akai_profe ... ose_button

http://community.akaipro.com/akai_profe ... ays_on_top

The feedback we recieved was that only one plugin window open at a time as the 16 Qlinks automap to them. If multiple plugins were open at the same time, there would need to be a way to select which plugin that the Qlinks control. And implemented in a way that would be intuitive.

The plugin window not staying on top is not desirable. If you operate the Ren/Studio strickly from the controller, there isn't any issues. But if you click in the software while a plugin window is open, it hides behind the Ren/Studio software. With plugin effects, I can live with this issue until a better solution is implemented as there is an [Edit] button on the hardware which will open/close/bring the FX GUI to front. But for plugin instruments, there is no such option from the hardware.

JAH wrote:The feedback we recieved was that only one plugin window open at a time as the 16 Qlinks automap to them. If multiple plugins were open at the same time, there would need to be a way to select which plugin that the Qlinks control. And implemented in a way that would be intuitive.
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that definitely makes sense - one possible work around could be basically making it so the QLinks will be assigned to whatever window is highlighted with the mouse (whichever window is in the foreground) Might be harder to code, i dont know... Reason works kinda like this i think.. with midi controllers and automapping the devices.. you can see everything at once, but only whatever is highlighted is what goes to your midi controller.



in workflow context, lets say you have a filter and an eq on track one and you want both windows open and visible - you could use one hand on the mouse to switch between the two and the other hand to adjust the qlinks.. you can already kinda do this, but strange that you cant at least view them both at the same time

i understand the QLink dilema - but does this seem do-able?

not that i really need this even, just thinkin about the OP's idea

es-k wrote:

JAH wrote:The feedback we recieved was that only one plugin window open at a time as the 16 Qlinks automap to them. If multiple plugins were open at the same time, there would need to be a way to select which plugin that the Qlinks control. And implemented in a way that would be intuitive.
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that definitely makes sense - one possible work around could be basically making it so the QLinks will be assigned to whatever window is highlighted with the mouse (whichever window is in the foreground) Might be harder to code, i dont know... Reason works kinda like this i think.. with midi controllers and automapping the devices.. you can see everything at once, but only whatever is highlighted is what goes to your midi controller.

in workflow context, lets say you have a filter and an eq on track one and you want both windows open and visible - you could use one hand on the mouse to switch between the two and the other hand to adjust the qlinks.. you can already kinda do this, but strange that you cant at least view them both at the same time

i understand the QLink dilema - but does this seem do-able?

not that i really need this even, just thinkin about the OP's idea

Almost anything is do-able within reason of course. But you mentioned the 'dreaded mouse.' As soon as a mouse-only function is implemented, a wave of irate individuals take over the forum to proclaim its not a 'real MPC' as it can't accomplish the feature from the hardware....disregarding the fact that said feature is not even possible using a hardware MPC.

Forum member #1: The Ren can manually add/delete slice markers using a mouse. Slices faster than MPC to date.

Forum member #2: That function is absurd. Traditional MPC workflow dictates all functions must be accomplish from the hardware.

Forum member #1: Shut the hell up you damn nerd!

This has more to do with mixing and post production and less to do with workflow - anyone who uses the Ren regularly to make music understands the difference between laying down your creative thoughts vs mixing and mastering

I'm just pointing it out because these are the types of things people may prefer to use a mouse with ... As opposed to .. Lets say, change edit zones in pgm, or create new pgm ( yes I know it was added ) ... Those are things essential to workflow from the controller and part of recording a beat - this plug in editting request is completely different

It won't matter when 'they' come for your head. Mouse, computer monitor, are bad words.

yea, i see your point - with that said though, gotta remember that most people got the Ren because they wanted classic mpc workflow with the ADDED POWER of computer, vsts, etc.. SO... as long as the beat creation process can take place from the hardware controller - mixing, tweaking vsts, etc could have plenty of mouse only features... maybe map the qlinks to whatever the main selected plugin window is, etc

at least people couldn't complain about missing classic mpc workflow from controller because at using VSTs like this has never been possible from an MPC so directly.

see what im gettin at here? being able to have two plugin windows open and still having to use the mouse would be ok because it would be a completely new thing, as opposed to a missing old feature from the hardware.

plus, its less related to the creative process

I agree. It would be nice to open multiple plugin windows. But if implemented, I want to have access from the controller. I still need to open plugin instruments from the controller which hasn't been implemented as of 1.3.

Step one:

JAH wrote: I still need to open plugin instruments from the controller which hasn't been implemented as of 1.3.

Clicking the tiny e with the mouse would make me nervous either.


Step two:
"Pin" plug-ins, change focus between inserted plug-ins form the hardware.
Luckily we have only 4 slots Maybe just use the buttons beneath the MPC Screen ?
Or the Number Block

I think for instruments the controls could just follow whatever track you are on no matter what windows are open, or...
it could be that you control the last GUI you opened from the hardware with the ability to manually switch between what the MPC hardware is controlling.

We already talked about this a month ago: viewtopic.php?f=36&t=164440