Jump ship from 4000 to Ren

So I have and love a 4000. Just finished producing a rap album on it. I use it along with a few hardware synths and synth racks, and I output my work through the 8 outs to Logic Pro.

I've been eyeing the Ren for a while now, but avoided it cause of bugs, and also cause it doesn't have any sliders (i use the sliders often to chop sounds like a DJ cutting or control pitch, etc).

I'd like your thoughts. Should I switch to Ren or stick to the 4000? Is it THAT much better?

cant help u on this one g

my first mpc was the mpc ren

you can do scratches and shit using the q links which work the similar to the fader on the old mpcs if u use the right preset

thats all i can say

also..

link to ure "album"
i wana hear

Do you have a good performing computer? If so I would say get the Ren or studio AND keep the 4000. The software has come a long way and is much more stable. You can actually load files from the 4000 too but you may have to make some adjustments. I think you will like chopping on the Ren, it's very quick. But whatever you do I suggest keeping your 4000.

yea

keep that old shit just incase

and get ren

or the shitty version of ren which is the studio i tank

You will find there are things on the 4k that aren't there on the Ren so far. Things you can do to samples etc. You can use plugins but you have them on your DAW anyway. I kept my 4000. Sometimes I think the sampling sounds better, the compressor doesn't kill the bass, I would miss the girl tapping her foot. I use the Ren and have made a lot of music on it, I like it but the 4000 is kind of special.

I just finished an album on a 5000. Also have a Studio. IMO there isn't anything the MPC software has that would make me get rid of the 5000, let alone if I had a 4000.

The software is cool, but to me the standalone is where it's at. Plus I'm not a fan of the direction it seems to be going (toward DAW). IMO, keep the 4000 and the Ren if you can.

Granted, this is all my opinion, I'm probably in the minority here.

SoNice wrote:Should I switch to Ren or stick to the 4000?

I'd personally wait until NAMM in 6 weeks to see what they do next. They are known to working on a Windows Embedded standalone MPC, so hopefully that will see the light of day in January.

I kept my hardware MPC's when I bought the Ren.

It takes two things to run the Ren: 1. A good working computer. 2. A working Ren
Lose one or the other and your done son.

If you have the money to buy one, get it, it's worth it.

bwahahah silis

yea just keep your old mpc..

and even if they do make a stand alone..i bet it aint even gona be as good as it should be...and its gona get upated anyways..

like where you have to download and install the new update or some shit

pituchez wrote:and even if they do make a stand alone..i bet it aint even gona be as good as it should be...

That's a given with Nukai but you never know, they might surprise us.

A Ren Mk2, flagship standalone and portable standalone would be a nice lineup.

Here's the album for those that asked:

http://bucknnice.bandcamp.com/releases

Hard copies sold at our website www.BUCKnNICE.com

One more thing. I definitely didn't like Maschine. Mostly because it wasn't hardware synth friendly, and because I found the sequencing kind of awkward. And I find the quantizing on software in general is not as on-point as on hardware. Anyone find themselves having to move around sound with their mouse after laying them down, or is the quantizing alright?

I'm on a pretty powerful iMac. I'm not too concerned about the power of my computer.

i just program the drums with time correct off. i hate that quantize shit.

i mainly use that when i lay down other sampls..liek bass or keys and shit..

hearing your cd..not bad.
you made the beats?

who did the skratches?

put it for free...

i aint paying 10 dollers for it ;p

*edit*

hmm damn its actually not bad..

really diggin that take action beat..and "the one" beat is dope **** too. diggin that guitar..

diggin the beats more then the raps..but once teh raps catch up to teh beats..shit should be sick as hell

What I like about the Ren software is the possibility to import standalone MPC's projects.

I still have my 2500 and 4000. ( As mentioned earlier, projects imported from the 4000 may need some further tweaking )

Most of the time I start projects on the standalone MPCs and after a while import the projects into the Ren. From there on it's really comfortable editing further oder export to your DAW.

For me the Ren is the ultimate bridge between my standalone MPC projects and the software world. Always wanted that, love it.

So, yeah, keep your 4000 AND buy a Ren

Thanks for the feedback on the album. I'm the DJ and Producer, SawBuck is the rapper. And no, I won't put it for free hahaha, a lot of money and time went into making the album. Plus it's selling really well in hard copies and on iTunes... so putting it for free will just undermine all that.

I hope to see more feedback on this. Massdrop (a dope site you should check out) might sell the Ren at a wholesale price of $600... so i'm considering it strongly.