Chop From Entire Song

I want to chop throughout from a 3 minute song. In sample edit mode, I want to just be able to select starting and end points for all of my regions, maybe about 85 of them. Threshold mode looks like a total mess for this(?). Regions looks like what I want, but the starting and end points are so stubborn, plus if you decide mid-chop that you want to change the amount of regions, everything gets all screwed up. You lose your progress.

Normally what I do is just sample in and record one little piece at a time from throughout the song, assign to pads, and trim them up. Old school hardware style. But I feel like there's gotta be an easier way, and one where I'm not sampling in.

PS I'm still using 1.6 because versions above has been too unstable. So lazy chop is not an option. Anyone have ideas? I feel like I'm missing something here. It shouldn't be this hard. I just want to be able to move around my start and end points (and also have the option of letting them overlap) freely. Help!

Thanks!!!!

Anyone?????

Use 1.9.6 its more stable then 1.6 in my own opinion.

I would suggest using Regions, but make sure you have 'Link Slices' turned off....

(assuming you have that option in 1.6)

Are you chopping non-destructively? Link slices off? Snap to zero off? Hmmm, I think NDC was 1.8, so IMO you're going to struggle trying to do this 'destructively' - better off splitting the song into more manageable chunks and work on them individually.

Just update to 1.9.6 - you can then work non destructive and edit directly within the program (or via chop 'program' mode) - pad parameters, slice value etc.

Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback. But none of these (at least in 1.6) are as convenient to me as sampling in one bit at a time. At least from a very large sample. The chop lines are too damn stubborn for me, even with link slices "off".

Is there a way to upgrade to 1.9.6 and revert back to 1.6 if I don't like it? Without having to delete my computer's contents and execute a full restore from time machine? I'm on a 2015 Macbook Pro.

I had tried earlier in the year to go up to 1.9.2, and all my projects from 1.6 went haywire in the new version. Pops, clicks, and incorrect information galore (tunings, mute groups, start/end points). So I did a full restore of my computer to get back to 1.6, which is mostly stable for me.

Any suggestions about that? Thanks!

funkycoldmedina wrote:Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback. But none of these (at least in 1.6) are as convenient to me as sampling in one bit at a time. At least from a very large sample. The chop lines are too damn stubborn for me, even with link slices "off".

Is there a way to upgrade to 1.9.6 and revert back to 1.6 if I don't like it? Without having to delete my computer's contents and execute a full restore from time machine? I'm on a 2015 Macbook Pro.

I had tried earlier in the year to go up to 1.9.2, and all my projects from 1.6 went haywire in the new version. Pops, clicks, and incorrect information galore (tunings, mute groups, start/end points). So I did a full restore of my computer to get back to 1.6, which is mostly stable for me.

Any suggestions about that? Thanks!

On PC you just uninstall the new version and reinstall the old version.

funkycoldmedina wrote:
Is there a way to upgrade to 1.9.6 and revert back to 1.6 if I don't like it? Without having to delete my computer's contents and execute a full restore from time machine? I'm on a 2015 Macbook Pro.

1) Back up your 1.6 projects.

2) Install 1.9.6 and load your 1.6 projects - let the MPC convert them to the new project format.

3) If you hate it, the MPC Software has it's own uninstaller located in 'Library > Application Support > Akai > MPC > UninstallMPC'. Run this.

4) Now reboot your computer. 1.9.6 is now completely gone, including the latest drivers. Reinstall 1.6.

Personally I think you should go through the pain of any initial teething problems with the conversion as 1.6 is terrible compared to 1.9.6.

Thanks. I think i gotta stick with 1.6 for now though. It has everything else i need (besides the lazy chop), and i can't afford to have my projects get all screwed up with an upgrade. I'm too affraid. Thank you though.

I just don't fully trust the akai/mac combo when it comes to being absolutely sure i could get my projects exactly back to how they were-If i were to reboot and reinstall 1.6. I've been burned too many times by both companies.

save copies of all of your 1.6 files on external hard drive, and unplug it completely from your computer
download 1.9.6 and experiment
the work flow of 1.9.6 and stability has EASILY been the BEST so far
that chop in real time is sooooooo fantastic

funkycoldmedina wrote:I think i gotta stick with 1.6 for now though. It has everything else i need and i can't afford to have my projects get all screwed up with an upgrade. I'm too affraid. Thank you though.

I'm still using 1.8 due to similar concerns......I'm determined to draw a line in the sand somewhere and upgrade but I don't know when that'll be

funkycoldmedina wrote:I just don't fully trust the akai/mac combo when it comes to being absolutely sure i could get my projects exactly back to how they were-If i were to reboot and reinstall 1.6. I've been burned too many times by both companies.

If you've separately backed up your 1.6 projects then you cannot lose them - they are safely stored somewhere else, nothing can change that.

However, in terms of installation, the MPC Software is not a complex application, its not scattered in a million pieces like some applications, so it can even be manually removed very easily should you experience issues (however the uninstaller takes care of it easily). There should never be a need to use Time Machine or anything else to revert your system, it's overkill.

But regardless, IMO on top of TIme Machine you should also invest in a copy of Carbon Copy Cloner and keep a complete daily cloned backup of your system on a separate disk so you can revert to a known working system in minutes (much quicker than time machine clones).

I struggled at first trying to use BPM chop or threshold but your just going to have to manually write in the slices by hitting SLICE + on the hardware and then adjusting the chops as necessary. This IS the old school hardware way.

Every one is telling you right. Here it is summed up: Save a copy of your 1.6 projects in a new location. Upgrade to 1.9.6. I have no issues with it and it is much easier to lazy chop and go back to make small adjustments if needed. Once you open 1.6 projects in 1.9.6, they convert to 1.9.6. Having the back up is great in case things go totally screwed up. I personally haven't had any issues when opening previous versions of projects in 1.9.6. Depending on your computer and operating system, you possibly could. If you don't mind doing it the old school way, keep doing it that way. I love editing on the older gear and in the old style. Most of the new techniques of chopping is for speed. If you aren't concerned with time, just continue as you are, otherwise, lazy chop is a godsend.