Mpc Ren sample question

wassup yall. got my ren about a month ago and been having lots of fun with the pads and trying to learn it. got a big noob question here. anyway im struggling alot with matching my samples (lets say a piano loop) to the drums n bpm. time stretching makes it sound weird and while pitching seems to work somewhat i still feel its off beat. is it even worth it to loop a melody or should i just chop it up or is there something im missing?
any help would be appreciated, peace to all

Its all down to the loop really. It depends on how close it is to the tempo you want and you're down to the tools at hand. Start in the sample editor and make sure your loop is as perfect as it can be first. Figure out how many beats you want the loop to cover and go from there. Working in the sample editor is free from the tempo and grid settings of the sequencer. You'll need to know how many beats your loop is before you start messing with any of the time or pitch shifting. If the loop is still off, Id say start chopping it. Make sure you're getting the right slices so when its spreads it out it doesn't sound too off, but if you need to make a 120bpm piano loop do say 80bpm good luck. Even something like ACID or Ableton Live would have their signature glitchy artifacts at that big of a stretch. If you need to, go check out mpc-tutors demo chapter for the MPC Studio bible. Its the section on chopping up a simple beat and rearranging it, but it'll get you used to trimming slices when you chop loops. That zoom and snap to zero feature are your friend.

Once you've got it all broken up though, its still all down to the loop itself and how/where/why/what is going on with the musical content. The tools can work wonders with the right material, but it can only 'fix' so much when it's not.

Monotremata wrote:Its all down to the loop really. It depends on how close it is to the tempo you want and you're down to the tools at hand. Start in the sample editor and make sure your loop is as perfect as it can be first. Figure out how many beats you want the loop to cover and go from there. Working in the sample editor is free from the tempo and grid settings of the sequencer. You'll need to know how many beats your loop is before you start messing with any of the time or pitch shifting. If the loop is still off, Id say start chopping it. Make sure you're getting the right slices so when its spreads it out it doesn't sound too off, but if you need to make a 120bpm piano loop do say 80bpm good luck. Even something like ACID or Ableton Live would have their signature glitchy artifacts at that big of a stretch. If you need to, go check out mpc-tutors demo chapter for the MPC Studio bible. Its the section on chopping up a simple beat and rearranging it, but it'll get you used to trimming slices when you chop loops. That zoom and snap to zero feature are your friend.

Once you've got it all broken up though, its still all down to the loop itself and how/where/why/what is going on with the musical content. The tools can work wonders with the right material, but it can only 'fix' so much when it's not.

thanks for passing the knowledge man, very helpful. back to crate diggin