[Request]A list of Names to select from

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LMAO I have to give them the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-KbsHe42k

1:04 "I'll never be done I'm so rare."

People like that gave Akai the bad name hence giving birth to the JJOS.

Some people like to work smarter and some like to work harder. The best thing about the JJOS is he tries to give the people what they want--even if some people never use it.

another alternative to a name list would be a copy/paste function with more than one name, so you could have say 10 copy/paste cells, kinda like ms word.

or maybe using external midi messages for separate letters/digits.

the JJOS naming method is much better than akai os, but it could be improved. e.g. the Q-Link slider and buttons could be used for extra functions.

This request doesn't bring any "real" workflow improvements so -1 from here too.

4 u maybe. For me the less time I spend on naming things the less the work-flow get's disturbed.

I still can't get used to the pads numbering and lettering starting from the bottom and going up. What was AKAI thinking about when they chose this design....?

im with bliprock, you lazy f*ckers

again for me it's not about laziness but about speed. I sample different things quite often so I want to name the samples respectively, so the copy/paste function does not help unfortunately.

if you send text messages, you can manage to type on your MPC. give it a year and you'd have wished jj would've spent his time on something more functional.

there's something amusing to be able to be said about thinking you'd being able to remember which NAME exists on which pad/bank....but not which letter.

Nym wrote:if you send text messages, you can manage to type on your MPC. give it a year and you'd have wished jj would've spent his time on something more functional.

there's something amusing to be able to be said about thinking you'd being able to remember which NAME exists on which pad/bank....but not which letter.

So, you are telling me typing the word "keyboard" on the MPC pads(10 button presses because you have to press a pad twice for some letters) is faster than pressing 1 pad that says the word "keyboard". If you think 10 pad presses is more functional then.....

Astronaut brought up a issue (The naming procedure) that has plagued the music industry for years and all of a sudden people act like everything is all good in naming files and sounds. <insert "come on man" here.

Such a issue could not have been improved without the MPC boards, astronauts request and user input.

So, you are telling me typing the word "keyboard" on the MPC pads(10 button presses because you have to press a pad twice for some letters) is faster than pressing 1 pad that says the word "keyboard". If you think 10 pad presses is more functional then.....

no, i'm just saying it's funny to think it's easier to remember to memorize upwards of 32 name locations on pads/padbanks than it is to simply type "keys." really this exact same argument can be applied to a computer keyboard - but it's not, because it's easy to type on the computer keyboard. likewise with the MPC pads.

to be helpful, one might suggest setting up a default project with commonly used instrument tracks already named and placed. that's what i would do if i wanted to save myself the literal second it takes to type out "DRUMS" or "PERC" or "STRINGS" or "KEYS" or "BASS" or "GUIT" etc etc etc.

if i had the gumption i'd make a MPC touch typing video.

i actually typed out this message on my MPC pads.
jokes.

Nym wrote:

no, i'm just saying it's funny to think it's easier to remember to memorize upwards of 32 name locations on pads/padbanks than it is to simply type "keys." really this exact same argument can be applied to a computer keyboard - but it's not, because it's easy to type on the computer keyboard. likewise with the MPC pads.

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When things are intuitive, you just know. Its more muscle memory than memorizing.

I have used a DAW and it's the same thing with the keyboard. Typing the same common things over and over again.

Nym wrote:

to be helpful, one might suggest setting up a default project with commonly used instrument tracks already named and placed. that's what i would do if i wanted to save myself the literal second it takes to type out "DRUMS" or "PERC" or "STRINGS" or "KEYS" or "BASS" or "GUIT" etc etc etc..

The only two pads I can always count on being the same is pad 1 snare and pad 2 kick. The rest of my pads are different, especially when I use the keyboard. I wont even go into the variations of each keyboard sound that tend to spill over into bank "B" randomly.

I really don't think typing on the MPC or sequence templates are faster.

to be helpful, one might suggest setting up a default project with commonly used instrument tracks already named and placed.

Actually I do have a few template projects, sequences, programs, pattern banks and pad assigns, but most of time I have to make changes to them and the naming issue comes up again Another thing is that the more default files I create, the less default they become, too many...

I only wish I knew some of the basic programming involved with the JJOS so I could think of some improvements to the naming procedure that will take the least amount of work/time for JJ to implement.

I reckon that since there is already is a copy/paste function, the least programing way to go about this would be to expand this function. E.g. you could have the mpc copy a name to a pad. You would then have 64 copy/paste locations. It might work something like this:

1) Press copy and a window with 16 text fields comes up
2) Press the pad you want and the name is copied to that pad
---( you could have 4 banks with 16 name locations = 64 cells/names)
3) Press paste, the same window with 16 cells comes up
4) Hit the pad with the name you want and it gets pasted
5) The contents of the cells would be saved in the system steup file.

you get the idea....

astronaut wrote:
Actually I do have a few template projects, sequences, programs, pattern banks and pad assigns, but most of time I have to make changes to them and the naming issue comes up again Another thing is that the more default files I create, the less default they become, too many...

I only wish I knew some of the basic programming involved with the JJOS so I could think of some improvements to the naming procedure that will take the least amount of work/time for JJ to implement.

I reckon that since there is already is a copy/paste function, the least programing way to go about this would be to expand this function. E.g. you could have the mpc copy a name to a pad. You would then have 64 copy/paste locations. It might work something like this:

1) Press copy and a window with 16 text fields comes up
2) Press the pad you want and the name is copied to that pad
---( you could have 4 banks with 16 name locations = 64 cells/names)
3) Press paste, the same window with 16 cells comes up
4) Hit the pad with the name you want and it gets pasted
5) The contents of the cells would be saved in the system steup file.

you get the idea....

Hey astronaut since this was originally your request maybe you could send an email to JJ about improving the naming procedure--just to see what he will say.

Also if you combine the posts below it will kill three bird with one stone.

Here are the links

[Request] INSERT BPM of current sequence into name
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=152905


[Request]Date Stamp for faster Saving
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=154222

evil A Sulli wrote:Hey astronaut since this was originally your request maybe you could send an email to JJ about improving the naming procedure--just to see what he will say.

I might do that, but not at the moment. I wanna see what other ideas we might come up with and then combine them and reduce them to a minimum.

[Request] INSERT BPM of current sequence into name
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=152905


[Request]Date Stamp for faster Saving
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=154222

hmm, you could just use the copy to pad method I described above to store the BPM and DATE to pads and then use paste. Of course a dedicated insert date/bpm btton would be nice, but it might require a lot of programing.

Sometimes JJ (I feel) expects you to figure it out.Lets not waste our limited space.
After OS2XL this is your request?

astronaut wrote:
I might do that, but not at the moment. I wanna see what other ideas we might come up with and then combine them and reduce them to a minimum.

Well, just let us know what he said.

astronaut wrote:Of course a dedicated insert date/bpm btton would be nice, but it might require a lot of programing.

Nice...more like awesome

Text and transferring a word from here to there is the easiest things to code. I've seen JJ produce some complex things in a week...makes me wonder how good OS3 is.

TYPO wrote:Sometimes JJ (I feel) expects you to figure it out.Lets not waste our limited space.
After OS2XL this is your request?

I think we have covered all grounds (except auto-complete which I suggest not to do now) and now its up to the programmer.

I really don't understand your question and naming things is huge in workflow.

Text files are not that large--one byte. One pixel of a letter is smaller. With that said we are taking about a very small usage of memory.

Also remember most of the text is on a auto-load folder like cyrus requested.

personally, i have no problem using the data wheel. i think it is plenty fast to name things that way.

also, just give up on the date thing. there is no internal clock for the mpc to keep track of time when powered down, and i'll be damned if i'll have the mpc trying to keep track of the time since power up in the background while i am recording/playing my tracks. we're pushing the limits of cpu use as it is without trying to have some background process constantly running behind everything on the os. that's the exact reason why computers have crappy midi timing when compared to dedicated hardware units.

the 'list of names in a text file' request isn't bad. the names in the text file would pop up in a list you could scroll thru in the naming window when you hit a 'names' button or something. i can't see myself really using it much, but if JJ could implement it easily AND most importantly it didn't interfere with anything else or slow the mpc down in any way, then why not?

not an urgent request for me, tho. i would rather see JJ concentrate on more performance features.

the 'list of names in a text file' request isn't bad.

agreed, i think that's the most clever idea to come out of this thread

Nym wrote:

the 'list of names in a text file' request isn't bad.

agreed, i think that's the most clever idea to come out of this thread

Copy/paste (or a new function key) would be used to add new words to the list?

One of the Q-link sliders could be used to quickly slide trough the vertical list, while the q-link button would be used to select and insert the word?

i would hope whatever would take the least amount of time/effort on the part of the programmer so he could continue to improve the MPC as a musical instrument/midi sequencer.