JJ OS Feature Requests (ARCHIVE)

Coz wrote:In a nutshell (if you don't mind), why is it that people are clinging on to os2? I have only used the demo of XL for a few hours, and I am intending on switching up from the free JJ os to XL, but I hear a lot about os2 being more powerful etc. The comparison charts only tell half the story in my opinion so I was just wondering what the general consensus was? I know about Simult mode but there must be more to it than that...

thats right. theres a lot more, down to a matter of opinion, and personal perspective. but in a way its immaterial, because upgrading to XL automatically will give you versions, JJ1,JJ2, and JJXL. so u can do what u like.

arebee wrote:thats right. theres a lot more, down to a matter of opinion, and personal perspective. but in a way its immaterial, because upgrading to XL automatically will give you versions, JJ1,JJ2, and JJXL. so u can do what u like.

only if you're on the 2500. if you're rockin' the 1000 then you have to buy each version seperately.

anyway, search this forum going back a ways. lot's of digital ink has been spilled on this.

what os 2 has that 2xl doesn't:

1. mixer automation
2. 2 qlinks active simultaneously (both live & recorded) 2xl only allows one.
3. better filter behavior in regards to the qlink control.
4. simult pad actually works properly in 2. it's got a weird behavior in 2xl.
5. less bugs.

there's more stuff but that's off the top of my head.

Sooty_G wrote:

arebee wrote:thats right. theres a lot more, down to a matter of opinion, and personal perspective. but in a way its immaterial, because upgrading to XL automatically will give you versions, JJ1,JJ2, and JJXL. so u can do what u like.

only if you're on the 2500. if you're rockin' the 1000 then you have to buy each version seperately.

anyway, search this forum going back a ways. lot's of digital ink has been spilled on this.

what os 2 has that 2xl doesn't:

1. mixer automation
2. 2 qlinks active simultaneously (both live & recorded) 2xl only allows one.
3. better filter behavior in regards to the qlink control.
4. simult pad actually works properly in 2. it's got a weird behavior in 2xl.
5. less bugs.

there's more stuff but that's off the top of my head.

sooty, as an honorary member of the 1K Luddite Division, (i've recently regraded to OS1 ! heheheh its ridiculous how lovely 2x filters is with these Qlinks - and those 4 layers are coming on nicely, im just wandering what was missing from the OS1 re: OS2. as im finishing a nice little project, im gonna need to record it without the inevitable portage to OS2, 'cos it really all rides on the 4 layers, nearly all sounds goin thru 1xlopass2 & 1x hipass for super realtime gravelly-wetnuss) just wandering what u think the features OS1 shines over OS2 even? in retrospect its hardly been changed from the OS2 i know so well now.

i see now the best bit of never using XL, is the potential to do tracks nearly all the time in OS2, and equally OS1. (up until now, i used the "tap tempo hold" to switch startups only ever as forensic tool to analyze differences quickly) yet its really coming up as a feature to have two methods of working in parallel.......but if XL was loaded, i'd lose the OS1/OS2 brotherhood.

arebee wrote:sooty, as an honorary member of the 1K Luddite Division, (i've recently regraded to OS1 ! heheheh its ridiculous how lovely 2x filters is with these Qlinks - and those 4 layers are coming on nicely, im just wandering what was missing from the OS1 re: OS2. as im finishing a nice little project, im gonna need to record it without the inevitable portage to OS2, 'cos it really all rides on the 4 layers, nearly all sounds goin thru 1xlopass2 & 1x hipass for super realtime gravelly-wetnuss) just wandering what u think the features OS1 shines over OS2 even? in retrospect its hardly been changed from the OS2 i know so well now.

your question really strained my memory bank - i haven't booted os 1 in ages. after i decided to go full-time with os 2 i spent days just porting all my os 1 projects over to 2... and when that was done i deleted my os 1 projects folder & never looked back.

but your post made me actually boot into os 1 today to check things out. just personal preferences made me not miss the stuff lost from os 1 at all.

example: a lot of cats on this forum seem to swear by the '2 filters' thing, but i've never been down with that too much. 1 filter is a must, but i find when i slap a second filter on top... the original sound seems to get 'smeared out' too much and loses it's original texture/character. filter on filter and you start to enter the realm of synthesis, which is cool... but i have a synth for that! also, very easy to hook up an external box/gtr pedal, etc. for additional filtering... so i didn't miss that.

same thing with layers. i personally don't use them too much so when os 2 went to 3 layers from os 1's 4... it was no big deal for me.

but the gains in 2 were huge: the ADSR, INST, the interface improvements, TRIM screen, TRACK mixer... etc. that was more valuable to me.

but like i said, when i read your post today i had to hop back into os 1 & check things out. i specifically set up a 2 filter arrangement to mess around with & ended up making an ill little track... too good to just let vanish into the ether so i made an 'os 1 projects' folder again & saved it. so i guess i'm back to os 1 part-time. thanks for the tip!

yeah, it's nice having the 2 independent filter/reso controls on the q-links, as well as the 'cutoff 1+2' control. i had independent q-tweaks of filter 1 & 2 recorded, then i went over the top with another pass of 'cutoff 1+2' tweaks... got some interesting filter glitchyness happening.

os 2 is where i do the majority of my work and set stuff up for live performances, but it's good to have os 1 to dip back into every once in a while in the studio.

i see now the best bit of never using XL, is the potential to do tracks nearly all the time in OS2, and equally OS1. (up until now, i used the "tap tempo hold" to switch startups only ever as forensic tool to analyze differences quickly) yet its really coming up as a feature to have two methods of working in parallel.......but if XL was loaded, i'd lose the OS1/OS2 brotherhood.

yup. the problem with XL is not only do you have to re-install but also RESET. i've found that unless you hold down the ERASE button when you first start up after an install you get all sorts of problems. but of course when you do that you lose all your prefs, pad sensitivity settings, etc... you have to re-create all of that stuff & it is just too much of a pain to be worth it.

rarara wrote:

Tohtruck wrote:I'd like to see an option that can break each pad down into a separate track.

its on XL already (its a manual function though)

Someone elaborate on this function please??

i'd like to have loop in Chop:ON mode or the ability to convert a Chop:ON sample into real sliced samples

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Yes id like to convert NDC chops to regular chopped samples too, the good thing about ndc is you can play around with short phrases along with your beat and adjust them as needed, it'd be great to be able to do that and then decide which ones would benefit with a bit of looping, and convert them to regular chops.

A feature to allow you to manually insert chop points. Instead of having it do it automatically. A bit like how Recycle.

To really give total flexiblity its got to be the abilty to use the 1000 as a standalone sampler allowing programs to be assigned multimbral on midi channels 1-16, or 1-32. Each programs filter/cutoff 7 possibly more, should be able to be controlled externally. I love the mpc's sequencer and always use it for building rythyms & patterns but find it hard work when it comes to arranging the whole track with lots of external midi gear. Anyone get where im coming from?

What would be awesome is if simult WORKED like is should!
Peace!

I THINK JJOS 2XL SHOULD HAVE THIS DONE TO IT

FIRST OFF, GET RID OF APPREGIATOR FUNCTION. ITS TOO SIMPLEMINDED. JUS MY OPINION BUT IM SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME. NEVER FOUND MUCH USE OF IT. MAYBE EVEN JUS CHANGE IT TO FUNCTION LIKE A CLASSIC APPREGIATOR YOU KNO CLASSIC, 4-2, 3-1, DOWN AND UP SCALES MAJOR MINOR PATTERNS.

SECOND OFF, GET RID OF THE PONG GAME...WASTE OF VALUABLE SPACE. SERIOUSLY ITS NOT IMPORTANT. FUN WHEN I'M HIGH ENOUGH BUT I HAVE ENOUGH FUN MAKING MUSIC YA KNO. I WANT EVERY DOLLAR I SPENT TO HAVE JJOS2XL TO GO TOWARDS MY MUSIC PRODUCTION NOT SOME 1970'S GAME I NEVER PLAY. JUS KEEPIN IT REAL...ANYWAY

NEXT....

- ADDITION OF REVERB, FLANGER, CHORUS, BIT GRUNGER AND 4 BAND EQ IN TRIM EDIT W/ AUDTIONING AND OPTIONS TO KEEP AS NEW SAMPLE OR OVERWRITE (THIS WOULD BE THE S***!). WAY EASIER THEN RESAMPLING WITH EFFECTS ON SOLO'D TRACKS.

- ADDITION OF EQ MID SCOOP IN FILTER TYPES. (SELECTABLE FREQ AND +/- LEVEL PARAMETERS)

- REVAMP THE AUDIO TRACK TO BE SELECTABLE BETWEEN CUT/OVERLAP, THIS IS TO IF NEEDED, CORRECT THE FLAW THAT CUTS OFF SAMPLE AT END OF SEQUENCE WHEN LOOPING OR CHANGING SEQUENCE. IT COULD BE SELECTABLE IN THE AUDIO TRACK GRID EDIT USING ONE OF THE AVAILABLE F BUTTONS.

- BRING BACK AND REVAMP START OFFSET IN AUDIO TRACK WITH 1/16TH OR 1/32TH SELECTABLE INCREMENTS THAT FOLLOW T.C.

- ADD ABILITY TO LOCK TRACKS AND PROGRAMS TO PROTECT FROM ACCIDENTAL EDITS AND CHANGES.

- REPLACE F5 AND F6 IN GRID EDIT(MUTE/SOLO). F5 BECOMES SELECT ALL. AND F6 BECOMES MOVE. MOVE FUNCTIONS BY HOLDING F6 ON PARTICULAR NOTE IN GRID AND USING THE DATA WHEEL TO CHANGE NOTE LOCATION. MOVE FOLLOWS T.C WHEN ACTIVE.

- FIX THE QUALITY/[PERFORMANCE OF ADSR. THE RELEASE SOUNDS VERY DIGITAL AND "ANIMATED" PASSED 10 AND THE ATTACK IS TOO VIOLENT.

^^^^ Really good suggestions there!

JAY LIFT wrote:SECOND OFF, GET RID OF THE PONG GAME...WASTE OF VALUABLE SPACE. SERIOUSLY ITS NOT IMPORTANT. FUN WHEN I'M HIGH ENOUGH BUT I HAVE ENOUGH FUN MAKING MUSIC YA KNO. I WANT EVERY DOLLAR I SPENT TO HAVE JJOS2XL TO GO TOWARDS MY MUSIC PRODUCTION NOT SOME 1970'S GAME I NEVER PLAY. JUS KEEPIN IT REAL...ANYWAY

PONG ISN'T EVEN IN XL!

yea it is in the 1000 i dont know about the 2500. but definitely in os2xl for 1000 bro check the jj site homie.

Well apparently the OS file size limit is around 5 meg, so Pong isn't taking up "valuable space" as you put it. Can I request that JJ puts it back into XL for the 2500??