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By damien907 Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:56 am
when in NDC mode on jjos2xl, i find it would be very useful to have the next chop start at the endpoint of the previous chop.

ie. if chop i started at 000122 and ended at 000367, then when i choose chop 2 from the top panel, i would like it to start at 000367. this would make the chopping wayy easier for me, rather than having to scroll from somewhere in the middle of my sample to number 000367.

anyone else think this is a good idea?

also, if possible, it would be cool to have up to 64 chops in NDC mode.
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By m:t:c Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:06 am
I disagree, the power of ndc is in that you can have your chops however you like. Work around is that when you turn NDC on in slice mode select the amount of chops to be something close to what you think you end up having.

Also making note of the end value before jumping to next chop is good practice. Quickly dial this to be the start value for your new chop.
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By mikolo Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:17 am
Yes i'd like an option for this too, but as mtc says free start/end points is what makes ndc what it is.

What would work is an option, that would work like this : 1.Press 'window', select ndc linked mode "on". 2. Do your editing 3. turn ndc linked mode 'off' 4. do further editing for any chops you want to overlap.

I only realised recently that 'slice' works in NDC, so your not stuck with having the sample divided into 32 at the start of the editing process. This is very helpful.
By gangreen Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:20 pm
mikolo wrote:Yes i'd like an option for this too, but as mtc says free start/end points is what makes ndc what it is.

What would work is an option, that would work like this : 1.Press 'window', select ndc linked mode "on". 2. Do your editing 3. turn ndc linked mode 'off' 4. do further editing for any chops you want to overlap.

I only realised recently that 'slice' works in NDC, so your not stuck with having the sample divided into 32 at the start of the editing process. This is very helpful.



An option to do linked_chops would be H*U*G*E for my workflow cause I chop 32 beat samples into 32 pads. (Bank A and D)
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By damien907 Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:01 am
yeah, i realize the beuty of ndc is taht you can make overlapping chops, although i dont find that i do that too often.

copy and pasting an endpoint or a startpiont to a new chop would work great, or like mikolo said, being able to turn "linked mode" off or on would be cool too. although i would say that if it was on, you could still move it to another point, it would just start at that time.

either one of these would be my #1 request for the next jjos. :)
By djestouff Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:40 pm
mikolo wrote:Yes i'd like an option for this too, but as mtc says free start/end points is what makes ndc what it is.

What would work is an option, that would work like this : 1.Press 'window', select ndc linked mode "on". 2. Do your editing 3. turn ndc linked mode 'off' 4. do further editing for any chops you want to overlap.

I only realised recently that 'slice' works in NDC, so your not stuck with having the sample divided into 32 at the start of the editing process. This is very helpful.


I really like this idea. Best of both worlds.
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By B.A. Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:03 pm
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=153330

About a week or two ago I suggested a to add a copy/paste of start/end points feature to NDC to make it easier to match up the start/end points from one chop to the next because zooming and scrolling or punching the values in with the number buttons can sometimes be time consuming. I think something like this could be useful.
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By B.A. Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:31 pm
damien907 wrote:copy and pasting an endpoint or a startpiont to a new chop would work great, or like mikolo said, being able to turn "linked mode" off or on would be cool too. although i would say that if it was on, you could still move it to another point, it would just start at that time.


A "link mode" could be cool too if the copy/paste isn't possible, but like you said, as long as the linked start/end points could still be changed if needed. But I'd think copying and pasting the same way it works GPE (by using UNDO button to copy pads or individual pad settings to other pads) might be easy enough to add without having to change the way NDC works too much.
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By damien907 Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:33 pm
yeah your topic sounds about like mine, i just want the next chop to be able to be at the same start point as the last one ended, but still be able to move it around.

its a workflow killer having to zoom in and get the exact numerical value where your last chop ended (given your not overlapping chops).

this feature would be awesome, ill give you topic a bump too B.A. maybe we can get this in on the next update 8)
By gangreen Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:33 pm
damien907 wrote:yeah your topic sounds about like mine, i just want the next chop to be able to be at the same start point as the last one ended, but still be able to move it around.

its a workflow killer having to zoom in and get the exact numerical value where your last chop ended (given your not overlapping chops). 8)


So this is exactly why this would be so huge (and was and old default btw)

** You have to do this 32 times for each chop **. Thats alot of clicking and calculating.

I almost want to ask some of the veterans to get a set of feature requests they know are tried and proven workflow boosters. Lampdog where you at??!! :mrgreen:
By gangreen Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:37 pm
Its like, imagine having to read and duplicate info, for every rotary knob turn you wanted to do.


MPCs are samplers/drum machines 1st.

They are physical objects with a set of physical input devices.

The less manual actions / intervening / duplicating of info that is already logically available / that need to happen for any function, is zen to me. Workflow 1st, otherwise I may as well go any other drum machine. Let's keep this and one's like this one alive!
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By bliprock Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:52 pm
damien907 wrote:ie. if chop i started at 000122 and ended at 000367, then when i choose chop 2 from the top panel, i would like it to start at 000367. this would make the chopping wayy easier for me, rather than having to scroll from somewhere in the middle of my sample to number 000367.

anyone else think this is a good idea?

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have you realised that you are in fact not correct in assuming that for a good cut you should have same number for end and start points. In fact this number relates to samples and why would you repeat a sample, What it should be is the next sample and not over lap and repeat that very tiny bit you have added. Can makes a difference.
So in his case chop two should start 000368, otherwise you are repeating samples and adding glitch