Finally a pic of those Jumper Settings

this is a teac TEAC FD-235HF

just wondered if anyone could tell from the pics if it'd work in my mpc60?


thanks.

mikolo wrote:this is a teac TEAC FD-235HF

just wondered if anyone could tell from the pics if it'd work in my mpc60?

thanks.

Probably not without modification if the drive was intended for PC use.

Not all FD-235-HF are made the same

You would have to do make the modifications yourself to change the Drive Select and RDY state pins to get it to work with a MPC 60. If you had a good datasheet, this wouldn't be very difficult, but useful TEAC datasheets can be hard to find.

ok thanks for that.

my other alternative is an old amiga 500 drive, what/can i do to make that work in the mpc60?

iv found a data sheet for the first drive as well:

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/FD-235H ... sheet.html

mikolo wrote:ok thanks for that.

my other alternative is an old amiga 500 drive, what/can i do to make that work in the mpc60?

iv found a data sheet for the first drive as well:

http://www.datasheetarchive.com/FD-235H ... sheet.html

This has been posted quite a bit already, but there's a tutorial at the link underneath on getting certain TEAC drives to work in a MPC 60

http://blog.retrosynth.com/archives/200 ... kai_m.html

To summarize the findings on that page, at a minimum for a floppy to work in a MPC 60, Drive Select needs to be 0, Density Select Set by HD in pin 2, and Pin 34 must be set as Ready Output.

If you read your datasheet you linked to, you will find the answer to how it that particular drive configured.

So whatever drive you are using, TEAC, Amiga, ...whatever... if the drive is not already configured to the settings above, you will have to set it on the drive. This may include cutting traces, jumpering wires, moving components, shorting out pins or ICs, -- it all depends on how the drive is designed.

Good luck!

thanks again mpc hunter.

my disk was working fine until i popped open the mpc to fix my pads... bit annoying really, but i suppose it was bound to go eventually.

ill take a look at that link, thanks.

In that case I would recommend that you try other cables to connect the drive to the MPC board. Or are you sure that they are ok?
What does the drive when you turn on the MPC? any light or motor (with and without a disk)?

peace

the drive powers up, the led works when you insert a disk. when i try to load it makes some noise and then says "no disk inserted" or something like that. ive tried reconnecting the wires too.
can i use regular pc wires?

If you're using a regular PC cable for this floppy drive, you may have to turn it upside down on one end to get it to work in the MPC

PC floppy cables are crossover cables meaning there is a twist in the cabling -- in a PC, you can put two floppy devices on one cable.

The MPC is only looking for one floppy drive and may mistake the drive if it's on a crossover cable.

Thats right, although I've seen not so many twisted floppy cables the last few years. Most of them wasn't twisted. But you will see if it is twisted
How does the MPC side of the floppy cable look like? is it soldered to the MPC board or is it plugged on pins?
I ask cause I know the problem myself. After I opend my s950 to replace the backlight it told me that "ooops disk not mounted" message. The motor and light worked but
there was this annoying message. Sometimes it worked sometimes not. I was very frustrated cause finding a drive that work is not that easy. I think its bit different from the MPC60.
Ok I decited to open it again and search for the problem. I found out that it was a "broken solder pin" of the pins the power plug of the floppy was connected to (hope you know what I mean )
I solder it again and the problem was gone
I hope your problem is that easy too.

If you are experienced with electronic I would say open up the MPC turn it on and wiggle a little bit on the floppy power cable. Thats how I found the problem.

peace

ok thanks for the tips so far, its really appreciated.

i swapped the wire , managed to get it working after twisting it round, loaded a pgm...... and then punched the air in celebration
BUT THEN I tried to save and got the message: "this disk is bad" etc , and from this point on i could no longer load from this disk or any others. mainly getting the same "this disk is bad" message again and again....damn!

i tried formatting a disk too, this got to almost the end of the process and told me the disk had "bad sector" or such like.-im gonna try that disk out in the s900 to see how that copes with it.

What type of disks are you using? If you're using HD disks which have been reformatted to be DD, the magnetism imbalance may be a culprit. Also, how old are the disks you're trying to use?

Im using DD disks.... as far as how old they are i dont know, i bought a couple of batches off ebay about a year ago. But i suppose dd disks are old by nature, ive no idea how many times they were used prior to my ownership of them. I do believe the previous owner of the mpc used HD disks, cause he gave me a box of them with the mpc, i didnt use them though because i read on this site that they might cause problems with the drive.


also....i took a disk which failed to format in the mpc60 and tried it in the s900, it fomats, saves and load fine in that drive.