Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By cane beatz1 Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:18 pm
Does anyone feel like they have lost something on the timing after upgrading from 2.12 to 3.15 ?

I used to use the MPC60 heavily back in the 90s and the timing always had something magical about it, I know I don't have the extra features of 3.15 but I feel like there is something slightly off with the newer 3.10 or 3.15 OS
It sort feels looser and so it feels like it takes longer to get those breakbeats sitting tight with each other.

I know most peeps must be thinking this is ridiculous but I swear the 2.12 has something else going on that makes everything sit tighter, anyone have any thoughts?

Also, I remember fully well when the MPC3000 was released in 93/94 and was exciting and of course is legendary and prob the king of all MPCs but even back then, I remember feeling like the feel, the way the beats dropped was looser and took some getting used to, I wasn't sold on it for a long time.

thoughts ?
By thabutcha Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:45 am
What you are implying might be true. I’m using Vimana 3.15

But I personally feel that the timing comes from how “tight” or “dirty” you chop your samples.

Also

It might have to do with the processing power of the 60 and how elaborate your compositions are. If you have a lot of tracks plus CC info and program changes I can see how the timing might drift.

Personally I love my 60 for the Simple workflow and the 12-bit crunch. Modern sequencers can emulate any vibe you are looking for timing wise
By cane beatz1 Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:26 pm
yep that would make sense, the MPC3000can handle a lot more data with its processor, I imagine, soinstalling the 3.10 or 3.15 must take a toll on the MPC60 processor I guess and therefore must take away something in notes and timing... I also really love the sound
By CoastCoaster Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:36 pm
So I don’t have a clock test and that would be interesting to have. I will say that new functions do not necessarily have to interfere with timing. A good programmer like Rohan would have known to avoid messing up the key portions of playback/ recording. New stuff in the Hybrid windows disk area for example should not affect timing because they are only called outside of the playback/ recording zone.

The only person who can really settle this issue is David at Innerclock. His page is linked below. He has the numbers for the 60. But no OS version. David was in the loop with Rohan and he might have or be able to get the numbers.

Also as you may know Rohan passed last year and his friends said there may be some revived OS versions to come.

https://www.innerclocksystems.com/litmus