Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
User avatar

By latee Thu May 19, 2005 1:20 pm
Is that a 3000LE in ur sig?my god that is beatuiful



for really!!!

By optimus prime Thu May 19, 2005 4:30 pm
i think all akai mpc outputs are unbalanced i.e -10dB (may be able to get balanced outs on z series or s5/6000?)? this mod just seems to make them have balanced outputs i.e. +4dB? or am i talking rubbish?

op

By mpc3000le Fri May 20, 2005 12:22 am
optimus prime wrote:i think all akai mpc outputs are unbalanced i.e -10dB (may be able to get balanced outs on z series or s5/6000?)? this mod just seems to make them have balanced outputs i.e. +4dB? or am i talking rubbish?

op


"Unbalanced" and/or "Balanced" has nothing to do with "level".

IE: You can have an unbalanced line and have it running hot at +4dB.

Using the example of an MPC3000/3000LE.

MPC3000/3000LE outputs are unbalanced and run at +6dB into a 600 Ohm load.

MPC3000/3000LE inputs are balanced.

The "mod" that FORAT perform for an MPC60 is about boosting the output signal level and has nothing to do with balancing an unbalanced drive stage.

Rohan.
User avatar

By Philly Stress Fri May 20, 2005 11:42 am
mpc3000le wrote:
optimus prime wrote:i think all akai mpc outputs are unbalanced i.e -10dB (may be able to get balanced outs on z series or s5/6000?)? this mod just seems to make them have balanced outputs i.e. +4dB? or am i talking rubbish?

op


"Unbalanced" and/or "Balanced" has nothing to do with "level".

IE: You can have an unbalanced line and have it running hot at +4dB.

Using the example of an MPC3000/3000LE.

MPC3000/3000LE outputs are unbalanced and run at +6dB into a 600 Ohm load.

MPC3000/3000LE inputs are balanced.

The "mod" that FORAT perform for an MPC60 is about boosting the output signal level and has nothing to do with balancing an unbalanced drive stage.

Rohan.


They Also perform the Forat mod for the MPC 3000 too. How does it help??
User avatar

By Philly Stress Fri May 20, 2005 11:54 am
mpc3000le wrote:
optimus prime wrote:i think all akai mpc outputs are unbalanced i.e -10dB (may be able to get balanced outs on z series or s5/6000?)? this mod just seems to make them have balanced outputs i.e. +4dB? or am i talking rubbish?

op


"Unbalanced" and/or "Balanced" has nothing to do with "level".

IE: You can have an unbalanced line and have it running hot at +4dB.

Using the example of an MPC3000/3000LE.

MPC3000/3000LE outputs are unbalanced and run at +6dB into a 600 Ohm load.

MPC3000/3000LE inputs are balanced.

The "mod" that FORAT perform for an MPC60 is about boosting the output signal level and has nothing to do with balancing an unbalanced drive stage.

Rohan.


They Also perform the Forat mod for the MPC 3000 too. How does it help??

By mpc3000le Fri May 20, 2005 2:26 pm
Philly Stress wrote:
mpc3000le wrote:
optimus prime wrote:i think all akai mpc outputs are unbalanced i.e -10dB (may be able to get balanced outs on z series or s5/6000?)? this mod just seems to make them have balanced outputs i.e. +4dB? or am i talking rubbish?

op


"Unbalanced" and/or "Balanced" has nothing to do with "level".

IE: You can have an unbalanced line and have it running hot at +4dB.

Using the example of an MPC3000/3000LE.

MPC3000/3000LE outputs are unbalanced and run at +6dB into a 600 Ohm load.

MPC3000/3000LE inputs are balanced.

The "mod" that FORAT perform for an MPC60 is about boosting the output signal level and has nothing to do with balancing an unbalanced drive stage.

Rohan.


They Also perform the Forat mod for the MPC 3000 too. How does it help??


Maybe Bruce could jump on and tell us ??? ( In fact, why doesn't he get on here and contribute a bit more ??? )

IE: A lot of us know the MPC3000 output levels can peak the input of an SSL 9000K or a 6000E ( no surprises on a Mackie VLZ-PRO or A&H Mix Wizard )
.

So making them "hotter" than they are will achieve what in particular ???

Even higher output levels at the expense of a deterioration in signal to noise ratio ???

No thanks...

Just my $0.02 worth.

Rohan.

BTW: I'd love to hear from some one who has had this done to their MPC3000 and is able to supply some emiprical data about how much better things are after said mod.

PS: Nice paint job ... Like the wooden sides too ... :-)

By elmacaco Fri May 20, 2005 4:01 pm
Yeah, Brice does it to all models except the 1000, for which he lists no Mods.

Yeah, I don't get why an output boost on a +6 machine would be any benefit. Unless it just helps make it louder than other 3000's? A lot of the mods are for braggin rights, I would love a hotter output on my 60, but $300 I can't part with for that right now.
User avatar

By Philly Stress Fri May 20, 2005 4:23 pm
elmacaco wrote:Yeah, Brice does it to all models except the 1000, for which he lists no Mods.

Yeah, I don't get why an output boost on a +6 machine would be any benefit. Unless it just helps make it louder than other 3000's? A lot of the mods are for braggin rights, I would love a hotter output on my 60, but $300 I can't part with for that right now.


When I called Him a few weeks ago he said ,he could perform the mod on
Anything, An Akai s950,(SP 1200 He Said works Esp well with these!)
An ASR 10 Whatever!!

By elmacaco Fri May 20, 2005 4:35 pm
ASk him to what Db Output he does the boost on these different machines, is it a particular boost to all or does he take them all to +10? It was called a +4 dB on the 60, but if the 3000 is +6, then he's got to take it higher, etc.
User avatar

By MarkWolbirgh Fri May 20, 2005 8:11 pm
what does amplifying the outputs do?just make it louder?what difference does it make if you record it in your DAW then turn the volume up :?:

By optimus prime Fri May 20, 2005 8:17 pm
mpc3000le wrote:
optimus prime wrote:i think all akai mpc outputs are unbalanced i.e -10dB (may be able to get balanced outs on z series or s5/6000?)? this mod just seems to make them have balanced outputs i.e. +4dB? or am i talking rubbish?

op


"Unbalanced" and/or "Balanced" has nothing to do with "level".

IE: You can have an unbalanced line and have it running hot at +4dB.

Using the example of an MPC3000/3000LE.

MPC3000/3000LE outputs are unbalanced and run at +6dB into a 600 Ohm load.

MPC3000/3000LE inputs are balanced.

The "mod" that FORAT perform for an MPC60 is about boosting the output signal level and has nothing to do with balancing an unbalanced drive stage.

Rohan.


thanks for the information.

op