Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs

By ntalec Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:08 am
One more thing what are you using to drive the Monitor Ones?
It makes a big difference with the original passive version.
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By drumat!c Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:14 pm
A Haffler 200 watt amp. (nothing special)

Although, i'm not sure how i can better position myself, as i'm already in the center of the room, and my seat is dead center between both monitors.

Do you have any suggestions?

By ntalec Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:53 pm
It's not about the center of the room or being between the monitors, it because your mixer is off to the side.
If your are using the mixer and working from it in any way you are making changes with an extremely bad seating position.
Your goal is to have your mix position, the seat where you track, tweak and mix properly positioned in reference to the monitors.
Just correcting that should make a major difference in how you hear things.
Just at a glance you might be able to put the Akai keyboard where the mixer is, put the mixer where the MPC and 950 are and put the MPC and 950 where the Akai keyboard is.
That would at least me that when you are on the mixer you are positioned for the monitors and could reach your rack gear.
When you would be at the MPC and 950 you would have your back to the monitors but still have a relative reference position to them.
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By drumat!c Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:07 pm
I don't understand any relevance of the mixer's location to where my seat is positioned? I adjust the EQ and move back to my center position, using only my human ears to listen. As for arrangement and clarity, there is nothing terribly wrong with my mixes. The problems my mixes have are their lack of depth in the low end range (that which is inaudible but felt with the body). I soon realized that my monitors, because they're rear ported, were positioned too far from any reflective surface and were not creating a sufficient bottom end. After many unsuccesssful tests, I've come to a most desirable conclusion and have rearranged my monitoring/mixing position accordingly. We'll have to wait and see how the next beat turns out, but yeah, thanks again for your assistance.

By ntalec Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:27 pm
drumat!c wrote:I don't understand any relevance of the mixer's location to where my seat is positioned? I adjust the EQ and move back to my center position, using only my human ears to listen.



That in itself should explain it.
You are making the adjustments then trying to hear them.
You position for making abdjustments (decisions on sound) which are what create the depth of sound, your imaging, balances etc, should be made from the optimal listening position so that you can hear what you are really affecting as you do it.
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By drumat!c Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:52 pm
I'm adjusting then listening, listening then adjusting, as all engineers do. It still has nothing to do with the bass....nevermind....thanks man...we can end this topic.

By elmacaco Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:22 pm
he's trying to help Drumatic, it is easier of you have your speakers amining at you when you're at the mixer, that's probably when you really want to be in the sweetspot. That will help in general but I don't think that's your bass problem.

Get two hoimes to move your speakers closer and further from the wall while you listen. Also as has been said you should have some foam under the monitors to decouple them from what they are resting on.