Sample organization...

I just picked up a 3000 and have mostly figured out my work flow, but I have one question. I've decided to load many small programs up and then pick the best one for the project I'm working on. My question is; if I want to then add sounds to this program while I'm working, do I scroll through the other loaded samples and assign them to pads or is there another way, like auditioning them from their programs first and then assigning them? If I scroll through individual samples to audition sounds, I guess I have to name them all (eg. 808kik1) and not just number them sequentially? Do folks generally keep samples organized by kicks, snares, hats, etc... or just kept together with their kits?

Any help would be appreciated, I'm just trying to find out how most people do this.

Thanks,

Chris

you can copy pads(sounds) from one program to another. you can take sounds from the small programs, then copy them onto an empty program to make a new one. i dont remember the number, but it's under program/sound menu.

Thanks for the info. So I'm guessing most people load up a bunch of programs and then mix and match samples as they go along?

Peezie,

Thanks for the eye opener. I was scrolling through individual .SNDs on the "Assign Sounds" page. This other way of doing it under "Copy Program Data of 1 Note" makes it easier to find things with the samples shown under their programs.

Is this the way most people do this on the fly? And why would you want to "Copy Program Over Another"? Wouldn't you just Assign a different Active program?

Thanks for your patience with a newbie.

thewoodshed wrote:Thanks for the info. So I'm guessing most people load up a bunch of programs and then mix and match samples as they go along?

yeah pretty much. i been meaning to put together pgms but so time consuming with work, but on the other hand sometimes you luck out with the kit you loaded.

my sound advice, find 10 samples of each sound need, kicks - 10 samples, 808s - ten samples, claps - 10 samples, load as you go. with the 3K the filters can really transform a sample in a good way so.....just decide on what samples you need and keep them organized, i gots mine organized in a notebook, str8 pen and pad, on the plus youll also develop your own sound like this, on the minus youll always wish the 3K/60 had the organization like a 2K or 4K. hahahaha, but once that beat starts slamming who gives a fuc.

and theres that computer pgm maker but ive loaded sounds in there that i liked then loaded em in the 3K and they sound lke shit.

I just got a hard drive for my 60, and what I've been doing is saving heaps of drum sounds onto the hard drive, making sure I name them properly and then adding them to a pgm as I go along.

I then save the program and song/sequence to a disk and mark it.

The main reason is that I don't want to keep using the same drum kit for all my beats, which would be really easy to do if I had .pgms save on my hard drive.

Thanks for the heads up guys. I'll try it out on my workflow. One thing I like about saving small programs is that you keep the basics of a kit in the program(kik, sn, hat). I find I can get things going faster if they're from the same kit. But, I've also heard of people that never use the same elements of a kit together to get their sound.

Doveski, you found the Pgmmaker messes up your sounds? I thought it just converted the format of the samples, not the sound of the samples.

kwality wrote:I then save the program and song/sequence to a disk and mark it.

pretty much the same over here. i load up a pgm kit with around 16 snds or so, play around and find a small kit from that bigger kit to maybe 5 or 6 snds and assign them to a new pgm with everything in order how i want it to be. you can always add more snds to this pgm by loading up more snds, individually. then i start digging for some samples to match the kit, chop 'em all up, record some seq's, save the project to floppy, and add it to the pile.

400 floppies does not take up that much room. and that's a lot of 'project' beats and kits. i like knowing that this floppy has this beat projet on it and nothing else. it's even got the name written right there on the front of it along w/ the date and which kit the SNDs came from. i'm straight on the whole SCSI/ CF reader upgrade. the only thing that sucks is the slow load/ save times. so what, kick back and read a book or something.

i always save SEQ, PAR, PGM w/ SNDs in that order (not that it matters?).

highlife wrote:

kwality wrote:I then save the program and song/sequence to a disk and mark it.

pretty much the same over here. i load up a pgm kit with around 16 snds or so, play around and find a small kit from that bigger kit to maybe 5 or 6 snds and assign them to a new pgm with everything in order how i want it to be. you can always add more snds to this pgm by loading up more snds, individually. then i start digging for some samples to match the kit, chop 'em all up, record some seq's, save the project to floppy, and add it to the pile.

400 floppies does not take up that much room. and that's a lot of 'project' beats and kits. i like knowing that this floppy has this beat projet on it and nothing else. it's even got the name written right there on the front of it along w/ the date and which kit the SNDs came from. i'm straight on the whole SCSI/ CF reader upgrade. the only thing that sucks is the slow load/ save times. so what, kick back and read a book or something.

i always save SEQ, PAR, PGM w/ SNDs in that order (not that it matters?).

Yes,this is a reall workflow for da 60,i work same as you my bro..This is tha best way to doing beats on da 60!!!
Salam Aleykum!