Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By kazin187 Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:24 pm
I'm looking to grab one of these I know they're hard to find, if you have an MPC 3000 with one of these installed or a spare intermart/microtech unit and want some cash messege me with an offer.

By dutch Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:32 am
I just bought one less than a week ago.

By zeusmajor Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:28 am
I also am exceedingly interested in one of these, and will pay $$$ for one. Then again, who isn't? :D

By zeusmajor Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:09 am
Alright!! The seller claims that he used this with his Akai sampler, but doesn't specify which kind. Any CF masters out there know for certain if it is compatible with the 3000?

By Deta!L Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:32 pm
yo! please do a search...seriously

By kazin187 Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:53 pm
I believe those are PD-10's and has been reported to not work.

Zeus go get your own mpc 3000/CF post and stop messing up mine.

Honestly someone has one of these and wants some dollars holler at me.

By zeusmajor Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:24 pm
kazin187 wrote:I believe those are PD-10's and has been reported to not work.


Thanks for helping :wink:

By mpc3000le Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:59 pm
Mandino wrote:FYI

http://cgi.ebay.it/Scsi-PCMCIA-CARD-rea ... dZViewItem

Would buy it myself but I'm not going to mess around with a 110V/220V adapter again.


These work with the MPC3000 Vailixi 3.50 Operating System in "single sector transfer mode".

They can't be mounted internally though.

Rohan.
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By deck daddy Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:17 pm
mpc3000le wrote:These work with the MPC3000 Vailixi 3.50 Operating System in "single sector transfer mode".


What does that mean? I couldn't find info on this on the mansell-labs page.

And do they work with the 2000XL as well? If so my friend and I could by them together.

By mpc3000le Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:00 am
deck daddy wrote:
mpc3000le wrote:These work with the MPC3000 Vailixi 3.50 Operating System in "single sector transfer mode".


What does that mean? I couldn't find info on this on the mansell-labs page.

And do they work with the 2000XL as well? If so my friend and I could by them together.


Storage devices are not all made equal.

Not all drives, particularly certain CF drives handle the reading and writing of "MULIPLE DATA SECTORS" in one go.

IE: They do not respond correctly when ask to deliver or receive large sized blocks of data in one go.

The only way to reliably deal with such CF drives is transact with them "ONE SECTOR AT A TIME".

IE: In smalled sized blocks.

Not all drives, particularly certain CF drives handle caching of data correctly in the standard SCSI read and write modes.

IE: Drives aimed at certain markets leave the caching up to the actual CF card.

Most CF cards are in-capable of dealing with requests to transfer large chunks of data.

It then becomes the job of the CF-DRIVE to deal with the CF card limitations.

If the drive can't deal with said CF card limitations then data transactions can only be performed in single, standard sized chunks at a time.

A recent thread on the AKAI SAMPLERS MAILING LIST points to a certain camera forum where CF performance issues are discussed at length.

The Mansell-Labs product page contains information in a simple form regarding this.

At Point 13 in the products section:

"Make SCSI Hard Disk Active menu now has the feature of enabling or disabling SCSI multi sector transfer mode."

......and in the section regarding "bugs fixed":

"Re-write of SCSI protocol engine to fix compatibility with recalictrant storage devices."

Do these drives work on a 2000XL ?

Lots of drives work on the 2000XL as its SCSI subsystem was developed to reflect protocol capabilites of its day ... have not tried this model in particular with a 2000XL, don't have a 2000XL on hand to do so.

Have used it with the MPC3000 and Vailixi 3.50 in single sector transfer mode and it works ok.

I've talked about the whole multi sector topic in other posts on MPC-FORUMS.

Rohan.
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By deck daddy Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:02 pm
Thanks alot! :D

By mpc3000le Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:02 am
No problem.

Rohan.

By mpc3000le Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:09 am
scsi for samplers .com wrote:I just got in four PCD-25BHSF card readers that are new. These seem to be a bit different from the PCD-25B I'm used to, as they have SM slots on the bottom instead of CF slots. Has anyone tried this model with your MPC3000 or MPC60? No problem.


There are four models of PCD-25 mechanism.

This type will still work with an MPC3000... its still after all, a PCD-25 and exhibits the same behaviour where response to SCSI stimuli is concerned.

In essence PCD-25 models were available in:

2 x PCMCIA ( PC-CARD ) slots.
1 x PCMCIA ( PC-CARD ) slot & 1 CF SLOT.
1 x PCMCIA ( PC-CARD ) slot & 1 SM SLOT.
1 x CF slot & 1 SM slot.

Rohan.
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By Triple_A Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:17 pm
Ive got one of these connected to a 2kxl and it works fine.