Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By hiredesign Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:06 am
yoyo

i need a decent mixer for my s950 and mpc60

so 16 tracks and more i guess

anyone got any recommendations

peace
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By MC Denzel Washington Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:10 am
If you need more than 16 channels I would go for a mackie joint.
Do you really need all of the outs hooked up, I mean I don't know if you need that many channels. I have a yamaha mg16/4 and that works great.
By mpc3000le Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:53 am
hiredesign wrote:yoyo

i need a decent mixer for my s950 and mpc60

so 16 tracks and more i guess

anyone got any recommendations

peace


Mixers have channels.
Recorders have tracks.

So a 16 channel mixer.

A MACKIE 1604VLZ-PRO or the new MACKIE 1604VLZ3 will be reliable, affordable, robust and all that.

Good routing capabllity too.

I've used a MACKIE 1604VLZ-PRO for years with good results.

The YAMAHA MG SERIES are quite good.

The new lower priced Sound Craft stuff has very minimal signal routing capabilities.

Rohan.

By fobedafied Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:26 am
i agree with mpc3000... go with nothing less than a mackie 1604 mixer... 4 busses lets you have alot of routing options... i have an older model CR-1604 before the VLZ ones, and it works great... id just make sure that it has 4 busses, ive seen ones called 1604 that in reality only have 2 busses, maybe they are stereo busses?!?!
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By Juta Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:08 am
might as well ask here, instead of makin a new thread...

What's the most channel efficient way of taking advantage of the 8 voices on the s950? is the only way to have 8 channels for it? i mean, it seems like it can only take like 3 voices on the L/R outputs...
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By Something Like That Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:27 pm
nah dun.

F Mackie.

Go with a Soundcraft, Allen&Heath, Midas, Trident, MCI, etc...

You might as well drop some dough on a console with decent preamps, eq, routing, etc...preferably vintage but that's your choice.

You'll be routing EVERYTHING through your board and for a long time if your really into music so its a great investment.

By sequoia1232 Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:16 pm
The mackies represent a pretty good value, especially a used one. They made a rackmount joint called the LM-3204 which is 16 stereo or mono channels. These go for about $200-300 and would work nicely in a rack with a 950.

That being said, mackie isn't the best choice sound wise (though it's much better than people say). Money aside, I would go for:

Speck SSM (synth/sampler mixer) My personal fav and by far the best thing for this application. Expect to pay $1000-$1500 for one, if you can find one. Dead quiet with a ton of gain!

Midas

Toft ATB 16 (I have no experience, but looks promising)

A&H Mix Wizard 16:2 (built in fx)

Soundcraft FX16 (built in fx)

Mixers are one area where finding a real clean used one can save you a ton of dough. Lots of older stuff is getting offed cheap as everyone moves to mixing ITB. I personally would stay away from most of the guitar center related junk these days, a sea of cheap, mostly unusable crap.

I try not to get too snobbish about it, especially because sampling records to 12 bit isn't very hi-fi, but you don't want a bunch of extra noise on top of already noisy stuff. The real goal for me is a decent eq and lots of clean gain.

By fobedafied Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:54 am
i hear the mackie onyx series sound way better than the vlz series, not sure about the newer vlz3 series though...

By Deta!L Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:06 am
that Allen & Heath Zed? looks pretty interesting


with that said, as soon as I got a patchbay and began utilizing my Fireface software mixer I was a happy man

By Manilla Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:04 pm
go vintage. old skool soundtracs, allen heath, soundcraft.
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By fasttrackpimp Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:25 pm
Manilla wrote:go vintage. old skool soundtracs, allen heath, soundcraft.


Any particular models better than others in vintage mixers in these brands in your opinion?

By Manilla Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:13 pm
yeah the soundtracs PC range are lovely as is the topaz range (all the ranges are quality really). allen heath GS3 and system 8 mk1 and 2. various soundcraft models
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By derekam Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:03 pm
I agree, a nice vintage one will save some money and have better specs than some of the semi-pro mixers out there today. I own a Soundtracs FM series, which as I use as a front end for my computer audio.

If you do go that route, I suggest getting it serviced - older boards sometimes need to be recapped, the psu should be serviced as well.

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By boomspot Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:26 am
I agree. I recently picked up a 24 channel soundtracs solo desk. It has a ton of routing options and direct outs on each channel. It's so nice not having to plug/unplug my gear when i want to get down. I'm also running 24 i/o with logic to the board.

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By winz Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:47 am
Manilla wrote:go vintage. old skool


yeah, thats what i say.

i can highly recommend tascam m 520.

i have the smaller version (m 512).

all parametric dope eqs.....

warm sound....

20 channels, goes for 300 euros over here, maybe 300 dullarz in tha u.s. (or even much lower?)

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