Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By Donlong Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:35 pm
kebzer wrote:Weak forum? Nah...I am the living proof of the opposite (word!)! By just reading stuff over here and following links that ppl were throwing, I managed to learn inside-out my 2kxl in less than a year and now I'm working the same way on my 60.

And to add on the above, the 2kxl was the first piece of gear I cop'd, ever.

All you have to do is search and follow threads. There's a **** of info hiding inside irrelevant threads.

im so jealous of ur set up, mpc 60 and xl, that is sick. i just have the xl: if u had to pick one unit which would it be? are the drums better on that 60 than the xl?
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By stan steez Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:30 pm
distortedtekno wrote:
The Grublet wrote:should I get the new new os from mansell?

If you're very serious about the 3000 and need those extra features, then go for it.
I know if I had a 3000, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Valixi OS.
Rohan is the Australian JJ.


Besides the fact that the Valaxi OS costs between 214 to 314 Dollars and that it also includes a hardware change/update. :)
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By kebzer Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:58 am
Donlong wrote:im so jealous of ur set up, mpc 60 and xl, that is sick. i just have the xl: if u had to pick one unit which would it be? are the drums better on that 60 than the xl?


To be honest, if I had to pick one, I'd choose the 2kxl hands down. I've got it totally maxed out and it's the best all around groove machine ever built. It hasn't got anything great but it features enough from everything. All other models, earlier and later, are missing something, either on storage, functionality, sound, character etc.

However, the 60 is simply the best *drum machine* (not sampler!) ever made. I'm simply addicted to it's character on the drums and the groove of the OG ASQ-10.
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By DukeNewport Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:26 pm
kebzer wrote:the 2kxl.. it's the best all around groove machine ever built.

Bring dem Lol's, fam! :lol:
kebzer wrote:All other models, earlier and later, are missing something, either on storage, functionality, sound, character etc.

JJ's burys ur XL, nuff cats got CF's in their 60's - & sound? All 16bit = same , & 60 aint' that
kebzer wrote:However, the 60 is simply the best *drum machine* (not sampler!) ever made.

WTF ??? My 60 says MIDI PRODUCTION CENTER...does ur say drum machine?

Real Talk tho, kebezer aint bein disrespetful, feel me?
stan steez wrote:
distortedtekno wrote:
The Grublet wrote:should I get the new new os from mansell?

If you're very serious about the 3000 and need those extra features, then go for it.
I know if I had a 3000, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Valixi OS.
Rohan is the Australian JJ.


Besides the fact that the Valaxi OS costs between 214 to 314 Dollars and that it also includes a hardware change/update. :)

Whoa fam! g'head w/dat 1st class hater BS!!!

Is hardware change a dirty word or some ish?! Install's mad easy!

The quote had to do with (all togetha now) S E R I O U S 3k users! - not sadidy sometimey b!tches!
By distantb Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:30 pm
i learned on the 1k , then picked up the 60 , now have a xl. My fave is by far the xl. The 60 does give sounds more punch but i soon plan to pick up a s950 for strickly drums.

when people say the xl souns thin its usually hear say , would top producers still use the xl if it made your beats sound thin and weak. Its a smal difference and mixing and masering correcly can fix that.
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By kebzer Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:42 pm
DukeNewport wrote:
kebzer wrote:the 2kxl.. it's the best all around groove machine ever built.

Bring dem Lol's, fam! :lol:
kebzer wrote:All other models, earlier and later, are missing something, either on storage, functionality, sound, character etc.

JJ's burys ur XL, nuff cats got CF's in their 60's - & sound? All 16bit = same , & 60 aint' that
kebzer wrote:However, the 60 is simply the best *drum machine* (not sampler!) ever made.

WTF ??? My 60 says MIDI PRODUCTION CENTER...does ur say drum machine?


Sorry Duke, but got to respond.

1. Bring what? I'd say bring a 2500 and lets see who can deliver more punch and head nod with the same samples and sequences. I've done that already and know the difference by far.

2. JJ sure buries Reason and FL. But not the ASQ-10 v2. Nothing can beat that except the original version on the 60's and 3000's. Also, not all 16bit machines sound the same. It's simple and straightforward, just cop an ASR and compare it to a 2kxl. Then take that put it next to a 1k. Last but not least, what's 300$ for the Marion SCSI plus another 200$ for an external SCSI MCD? Well, that's actually almost the price of a second hand stock 2kxl - MCD.

3. Mine says the same too. However, without the filters and the extra storage, it's almost useless for anything else than Preemo's boom bap. And although I love that shit, it's not always what I want to deliver. That's why I keep my 2kxl next to the almighty 60.

However, no bad feelings on your comments. I hope you do the same on mine.
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By `TK Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:00 pm
Preemo does not sample in the 60... its al 950... he only seq in the 60
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By kebzer Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:02 am
`TK wrote:Preemo does not sample in the 60... its al 950... he only seq in the 60


Does it makes any difference besides the filter? I own a 950 too and I also know about Preemo's workflow. Still, it doesn't make any difference to me besides that filter.
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By `TK Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:30 pm
dont make any diff to me to... ! but for some people it does... the 950 seems to be 1% dif then the 60.. as the adicts here say !!
Personally i think al this stuff about diff in sound is bullshit to me... just use what you like !
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By oLee.eeZus Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:07 am
7 1 4 Beats wrote:60's would be really dope if they had filters.


nuff said!
By Apples Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:33 am
The s950 also has the advantage over the (OG operating system) MPC 60 that you can sample longer than 5 sec at a time.
By engineer Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:45 am
These are both pretty old, pretty basic machines without too many advanced features so this particular forum is pretty slow compared to the newer model/more widespread mpcs. I think most people that get these particular units are already into making beats, probably already had a beat machine of sorts, and already have some kind of grasp of how these things work. So yeah, the forum is kinda dead. Weak? These things are 15+ years old, anything that needs to be said is stickied at the top of this forum. You sir, are the weak one, needing "inspiration" from a forum.

or as the great philospher put it

STFU AND MAKE BEATS