Does the 3000 have an undo button like the 2000

Not just yet

[I] Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
The last OS released while the machine was still manufactured ( not re-issued ) by AKAI and the development relationship between Roger Linn's team and AKAI was still intact.

Man..you are getting picky. The 3.12 OS is available from Roger Linn site...and not Akai for what ever reason. I guess you will be along to tell me why. It reduces the MPC 3000s sequencer memory by 10% but allows the user to load stereo sounds.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

In the past 9 years since this OS was released..some 3rd parties have put out updates to this OS that has ‘fixed’ known bugs.
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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Correct that statement.

Roger Linn Design released 3.12 to allow the import of split disks created with and MPC60 loaded with 3.10 of his OS.

3.12 still has the AKAI name on it as the OS was released while their development relationship was on the border of being still intact and Roger had negotiated to be the provider of the updated MPC60 OS.

Anything else to date since then has been my effort, in my spare time.

Whether it bares Akai's name on it is not an issue for me. I am just wondering why it is not downloadable from Akai. Even if it was available, I wouldn't upgrade anyway.

Now, I am starting to get your point. You have invested a lot of your time upgrading the OS, even when it doesn't really need it, so you feel compelled to defend your work. I am not knocking your efforts. Do your thing. But you are playing word games again. When I mention 3rd parties, you quick to reply back that it was still developed when Roger Linn had a working relationship with Akai. I think that is BS..but let me know if I am wrong. Fact: Akai dropped the MPC 3000LE in 1998/1999 depending on which country you lived in. Those MPC 3000LEs were released with OS version 3.11. Akai cut Roger Linn out of the profits for the MPC 2000, which was released in 1997. I would say that Akai and Roger Linns relationship went south around the time the MPC 2000 was created and released. If Akai supported the 3.12 OS that is now available via download on Roger Linn's site and not Akai..why wasn't it standard on the MPC 3000LE re-released two years after the MPC 2000?? I guess their relationship was still on the border.

[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Too much time on my hands Throwing specs at you

I could throw circuit diagrams, schematic overlays and parts lists too but to be honest ... don't see the point.

Is that your best one-liner to pick up women? 'C'mon lets go' will get you more women than that.

[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Well ... let us talk vintage and similar issue S model.

Jahrome ... same basic hardware ... different box ... different software.

The MPC 3000 mainboard is actually a little more advanced than the one in an S3000 and has an improved RAM interfacing bus architecture.

Ok..the MPC 3000s warp drive schematics is 2000 years post Captain Kirk...
but really though the MPC 3000 is an inferior sampler compared to the S3000 no matter what is under the hood.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

As a sampler..the S3000 murders the MPC 3000...91 second knock-out.

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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Shame it doesn't share the MPC feature set of the MPC 3000 in return.

Here you go again. The S3000 is a powerful rack mount sampler that never was intended to be a sequencer. So no, its not an MPC 3000 that is a drum machine/sequencer with an average sampler...somewhere between an S01-s1000 sampler.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

They were both released in the early 90’s about the same time..so it makes sense that they may have similar parts…but its been a decade. Akai and Roger Linn has no interest in doing anything else with the MPC 3000.
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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Jahrome ... the actual reason is way more complex than that.

It involves business models and contactual arrangments that went belly up a long time ago.

So, I am saying that they have no interest in doing anything else with the MPC 3000. Its been a long time. Both parties have moved on. More complex than that?? The MPC 3000 is the last thing on their minds right about now. And no, I don't know the CEO who is running Akai, Numark, or Roger Linn before anyone asks.

[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
The reason why no updates have been done in any capacity have 75% squat all to do with the hardware present in the machine.

Ok. So the MPC 3000 has hardware and software. By your math..I guess it means its 25% hardware and 75% software? No? So unless there is some hardware changes, there is only so much you can add with software improvements? I stand by my original statement.

Be careful how you answer. Because I will rehash this thread years later after there has been no substantial improvements to the MPC 3000 on your part or another 3rd party.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

So if you are asking people to believe in yours or anyone else theory that they can make the MPC 3000 sampler better…you will have to provide more than some slick statements. 3rd party developers haven’t done anything to improve the MPC 3000s sequencer. Only some minor few tweaks of collateral functions.
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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Slick statements You want slick Don't get me started Jahrome.

At the time I wrote this..I wasn't aware that the actual 3rd party developer was you. So now I can say, you haven't improved the MPC 3000 in a dramatic way. Again, I am not taking away from your efforts because I know you put in some time...probably more time doing that than creating any music with it. But I could be wrong though.

[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
haven't found the SHIFT button on the MPC3000 Jahrome

If you're going to be sarcastic about the changes so far then at least reference your commencts against some thing of actual meaning.

Some wheels need a little push to get them rolling Jahrome.

So maybe my post will get wheels rolling...but I suspect that the wheels are too rusted to move. Might as well get the talked about MPC 2500 or whatever they decide to call it. It should be called the MPC 3500 since there will probably be nothing that the MPC 3000 can do that it can't..minus a VGA option board.

I do know what buttons are on my MPC. The shift/power on comment was a joke...but if you hold down Sof Key 4, turn the data wheel counter clock-wise 3 times, and than hit the overdub key, the MPC 3000 will play an unreleased 50 Cent track that will not stop playing. This 'bug' can be corrected with the beta version of OS Version 3.18.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

I know that these early primary drum machines didn’t have graphic waveform editing…but the S series samplers do..which you stated that they have the same basic parts of the MPC 3000. No?
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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
That is a SOFTWARE thing Jahrome. Has 100% of squat all to do with the hardware.

So this is not 25% hardware and 75% software related? So now..it is 100% percent software? Let me take an educated (or uneducated) guess. If Roger Linn's OS 3.12 decreased the sequencer memory of the MPC 3000 by 10%...I wonder how much of the sequencer's memory will be reduced by more fiddling with the OS? Never mind..I won't guess that at all. Now, what could be added to the MPC 3000 so that the sequencer memory won't be reduced? Different hardware or more software? Or a combination of both? My bet is on at least some changes in hardware...Processor, mother/daughter board, memory..something..

[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Yep ... you're right.

It's a slow as **** on just about every S series pre the 5000 and 6000 ( which use far faster hardware )

Pretty damn slow on the 2000XL too when I used it last night.

Well, I am not posting because I want to be correct. Especially for posting what is common knowledge. I realized 6 years ago not to time stretch on the MPC 2000XL. That is why it is hard for me to hold in laughing every time I read about this feature on the MPC 2000Xl and those wanting it on the MPC 1000. This technology has been around for years and has been improved upon. I am hoping that the new MPC does much better with this feature.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

Would I like this feature..hell yes. Will it ever come..I say no. That will never happen. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Maybe I'll be including the feature ... but it is not at the top of my list.

There is lots of other stuff that is in development and nearing finalisation prior to including mickey mouse features like time stretching.

Mickey mouse feature? If any new sampler is released without this feature..it would be a Mickey mouse/fisher price sampler. This feature is used to create sample based music. Now, if you are efforts come up with a way to improve they way MPC 3000 users create music..I applaud your efforts. If it fixes the 50 Cent 'bug', I will applaud that as well. But if it is to add a way to save 3 MB of samples on a standard floppy disk or if the disk format screen now features a medium format function...I will pass with a 'no comment'.

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Originally posted by jahrome:

Maybe my statement will give someone a Vision and motivation to achieve the seemingly impossible. Again..almost 10 years since the last significant upgrade. I may be wrong..but I may be right. Currently, the odds are in my favor.
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[i]Originally posted by mpc3000le[/]
Don't let your arrogance and ignorance get in the way of your judgment Jahrome.

I am the current developer and there is lot more in the pipeline going on with OS development for the MPC3000 than you are likely to made privy to any time soon.

Are you getting this yet ?

Peace.

Rohan.

Obviously, I got your attention. Arrogance? I guess you feel that way because I made what you feel are 'presumptuous claims'. I have never manifested any superiority claims. It sounds like you have 'short man' complex. I am not insulting you. This entire post came off my response to the comment made that Akai didn't create the OS for the MPC 3000 in the first place. Akai is still not a person..and if they foot the bill for research/development..yes, the entity known as Akai created the software. No matter how you play with words.

Ignorance? Because I don't know how to program the software of the MPC 3000? Or because I challenged you as a programmer to do something with substance with the MPC 3000. There is nothing wrong with my judgment. I already stated that I will be the first to sing your praise should you do the impossible with the MPC 3000. I am just a skeptic. Why? Because I have yet to see any remarkable improvements to the MPC 3000 since 1996.

Jeez, jahrome, you on the akai cheerleading squad or something? or are you just a corporate patsy that loves the whole corporate thing? So weird.

I do no such thing anymore than anyone rides Roger Linn's weenie. This entire site is dedicated to Akai practically. So, I guess I am at home with weird individuals.

Akai was never a competitor of Linn, Linn made drum machines and sequencers, sampling drum machines later, akai never made anything like that until they hired Linn.

Akai were creating samplers at that time..but no drum machine that I know of. Playing with words again? Companies that produce products that create music are all competitors in a business sense. I do know a little somethin..somethin..when it comes to business and running/managing a business/organization. Successfully, I might add. But I am not showing off. Just making a statement.

Roger Linn went out of business. That dude was trying to sell $5000 drum machines in the 80s. Akai said..'Hey partner, you are not that bright when it comes to getting more bang for the buck, so we will supply you the tools you need to create a monster, and than sell it for nearly half the price.'

jeez man I still can’t believe you feel like your story is accurate, you are clearly backpedaling and just trying to defend what you said before using fast talking that your employees might not call you out on, but everyone notices. in fact you're just digging a deeper hole and you're filling it with Bullshyt...quickly.

Please forgive me for being arrogant and ignorant. Almost everything all parties have said is accurate from a certain point of view. Backpedaling? I don't have to do such thing. There have been many claims in these posts. Some of them have not been achieved. I am not saying this is false..prove me wrong.. I am saying that some comments made are not very accurate. I am questioning grand claims that the MPC 3000 can be improved the way it stands today with a downloadable software update. I am saying that Roger Linn was a cool dude that helped put the MPC on the map..but didn't do it all himself. And again...I didn't create any stories here. Akai posted their history on the website but has since been updated and removed. Roger Linn has his version of the events on his website, which isn't far off from what Akai stated. We all read a Sonic State Interview with Roger Linn stating that he did the schematics/and designs and with the help of 'his' team, and a great hardware specialist, put the final touches on the MPC 60. All of this but just barely recognizing the fact that he was out of business and Akai through him a steak and facilitated the creation of the best sampling drum machine series the world has ever seen...no, I am not backpeddalling and talking Bullshyt. But thanks for putting that out there and adding something of substance to the conversation.

Peace.

OK buddy, you are saying a lot of inaccurate stuff and generally acting like an ****, you keep trying to cast a certain light about relationships between Roger Linn and Akai in a way that none of the evidence supports, you are reading into things and imagining half the story how you want it to sound, and really don;t know your shyt.

The shift button thing was a slip, nothing major, but is one of many lines of Bs that you think you can just pummel into us to believe, when many of us know much better.

Man..you are getting picky. The 3.12 OS is available from Roger Linn site...and not Akai for what ever reason. I guess you will be along to tell me why. It reduces the MPC 3000s sequencer memory by 10% but allows the user to load stereo sounds.

The MPC 3000 for your information, can load stereo sounds with any OS, 3.12 was not created for that. I thought You might like to know that your "weapon of choice" can sample and load in stereo right out the box.

Oh but that's not important, who cares about details whe your image and ego are realy the important things here. So if you can sound important and insult people in some passive agressive way you just come out winning, cuz your jah-rome.

Check the 2000/XL forum for how many threads have existed BEGGING people to take up the cause of writing a new OS. making ANY changes, nothing too ambitious, but someone who loves the machine enough to extend it's capabilities and do what akai won;t do. You seem like you have a hidden agenda, why would anyone have a problem with the OS of any sampler being updated? There are many samplers that have third party OS's, why such a problem with this one?

Akai certainly would have a problem with it, many people sell their Xl's for 3000's, or decide between a 4k and a 3k, the MPC's are all competing against themselves, the used market is huge and I would suspect that the number of people buying used MPC's which akai makes no more money on dwarf the amount of people buying new ones. if new was the only option, well then it wouldn;t be an issue, but the 3000 competes very well still, and any OS improvements will enhance that ability.

Akai, is very bad at writing OS's. Most of their OS's are very Buggy, the S6000 had a terrible OS until 2.14, by then it already had a bad reputation. the 2000 and XL have a known reputation for crashing, and the 4000 still doesn;t have promised features and random bugs, as well as the 1000. they hammer out the kinks slowly. The best Akai OS's ever were done by Roger and his team, people he brought in as contractors for his project with akai. The 3000 has less bugs than any other MPC except the 60, all other MPC's have a bunch of bugs and clunky OS's, I wonder why?????


Ever wonder why you know rogers name and not anyone else's from akai? Forat's name is also known, they had built the linn 9000 and the midi Studio, which truly are the first MPC's, akai had nothing to do wth them. the 9000 was used by many the same way people use the MPC today, the sequencer / Drum machine. And he sold quite a few.

Roger is candid about his experience and you talk like you were there. if you were, tell your story, i'd like to hear it, but if you weren't, and all you are doing is telling what you think happened when you have read less than any of us on te subject, well you really come off like an idiot. I don;t get why it is so important to you unlss you like the attention or just like bieng wrong.

lay off the coke or something.