"Sound" of the 60.

question

What would be the best way to record beats off my 60? I'm not really into software like that I have Audacity and to me that's good enough for now. Should I record in the same bits and hz as the 60 or higher should be better? I feel when I record at a higher resolution I lose the sound so what I want to do is basically preserve the sound. Let me know

Ice Water Metallic wrote:question

What would be the best way to record beats off my 60? I'm not really into software like that I have Audacity and to me that's good enough for now. Should I record in the same bits and hz as the 60 or higher should be better? I feel when I record at a higher resolution I lose the sound so what I want to do is basically preserve the sound. Let me know

Well do you even have a Audio Interface? Don't record in the same bits and Hz as the 60. You can but I would use 16 bit 44.100 and it will still retain some of the dirty.

LvngDead wrote:So, I hear all this stuff about how the sp1200 will transform a sample when you throw it in there. Especially with drums and what not. But I've ALSO heard MPC 60 owners saying that this is bullcrap. And that the MPC 60 also adds a little magical touch to the samples, but it's not as lo fi as the 1200. I've watched so many MPC 60 videos on youtube, and even though the video quality wasn't Grade-A, I could still tell the 60 had it's own unique characteristic.

Your opinions, please.

I've had both mpc 60 mk1, and the sp 1200 black re-issue.

I would describe the 60's drums as 12 bit with good mid range thump. However they DO NOT sound like crunchy gritty 12 bit drums. To me they sounded a lot smoother. Claps don't have the sharpness/crack as much on them like other 12 bit samplers.

The sp 1200 drums are crunchy grimey etc IMO way way better.


If I where you I would go with the sp for your drums. I also ended up liking the simple wild un-precise swing of the sp.

for the sp forum go to http://sp1200.myfastforum.org/


however with all that being said the mpc 60 has a superior sequencer, and can trigger all your other midi outboard instruments, and the 60 does have a nice unprecise swing to it as well (just not as unprecise as the sp). The sp 1200 can't do this, it can just trigger note on/off (no velocity i believe) another sampler. Pads on the sp suck when compared to the 60's pads as well

rokuez wrote:Pads on the sp suck when compared to the 60's pads as well

I wouldn't compare the pads since they are so completely different. I simply LOVE the SP1200s trigger buttons (and they are buttons, not pads) and I LOVE my 3000s thick solid rubber pads. All other pads feel fake, the 3000s pads is the real deal.

Is it possible to install the 3000 pads into the 2kxl?

in terms of sound i remember but dont have it linked that there is a thread that compared the
sp-1200
2kxl
s950
and a bit crusher plug in

xibalba1875 wrote:in terms of sound i remember but dont have it linked that there is a thread that compared the
sp-1200
2kxl
s950
and a bit crusher plug in

I got you...

http://www.hiphopproduction.com/?pageid ... =grit_wars

yea thats the one thanks!

7 1 4 Beats wrote:
Well do you even have a Audio Interface?

No, I just record through the audio in on my mac mini.

The SP-1200 sounds way too crunchy/low-fi in that comparison for my tastes. I'd like to have a play with one though.

Coz wrote:The SP-1200 sounds way too crunchy/low-fi in that comparison for my tastes. I'd like to have a play with one though.

Those samples are pitched down in the SP1200, which changes the sound quality dramatically. It gets very crunchy and dirty indeed, which I love on some things.

Samples that are not pitched inside the SP1200 are super clean, only lacks the extreme highs. I usually don't pitch any of my drum samples in the SP1200. Only my other samples.

I can email a small comparison I did with my MPC3000 and SP1200 if you PM me, and those samples I compared are not pitched so they are pretty clean.

http://plot.bek.no/~andreas/SP1200_MPC3000_MACBOOK_TEST.wav

Yo, heres that super quick test I did a year ago, just sampling straight into my Macbooks soundcard, then MPC3000LE and that into my MacBook, and finally the SP1200 and that into my MacBook and put them all together.

I think it's

1:TTX turntable straight into Macbook
2:TTX straight into MPC
3:TTX straight into SP1200

on each sound

You can easily hear that the highest frequencies are missing in the SP1200, but you don't hear that extreme grit from the other test. You may notice that the SP1200 has a lot of bass too.

deck daddy wrote:http://plot.bek.no/~andreas/SP1200_MPC3000_MACBOOK_TEST.wav

Yo, heres that super quick test I did a year ago, just sampling straight into my Macbooks soundcard, then MPC3000LE and that into my MacBook, and finally the SP1200 and that into my MacBook and put them all together.

I think it's

1:TTX turntable straight into Macbook
2:TTX straight into MPC
3:TTX straight into SP1200

on each sound

You can easily hear that the highest frequencies are missing in the SP1200, but you don't hear that extreme grit from the other test. You may notice that the SP1200 has a lot of bass too.

Thanks for sharing. My point is, both SP and MPC have subbass roll-off, but the mpc adds lil forwardy mids (more s950 style) whereas the Sp has warm-noise in highs, somehow hard and forwardy midbass and a lott of highs cutting. SP has definetely more of its own sonics then the MPC (which kinda neutral except the warm middle mids). What is sp is also known for is the ringing resampling artifacts occuring when the sample is repitched down.