By numanmpc
Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:09 am
How does the drum layering work in the 3k, does it have zones and or keygroup like the 4k?
By kebzer
Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:55 am
Not even close to the whole keygroup thing. It's just the old school AKAI setup: SIMULT. You just pick 1 main pad and layer another two with it to trigger at the same time. Then you adjust levels, filters and ADSR and that's it.
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By numanmpc
Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:56 pm
Basically, it's better than zones, cuz you got your filters for each sound right?
In keygroup, you can do this on the 4k, but i prefer the rapidity of zones in most cases.
From what I read, the 3k is super fast to do anything, i mean they made it really simple.
In keygroup, you can do this on the 4k, but i prefer the rapidity of zones in most cases.
From what I read, the 3k is super fast to do anything, i mean they made it really simple.
By kebzer
Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:34 am
The 3k with the 3.50 (and the 60 with the 3.10) are damn simple in anything, but no, I wouldn't say they are super fast.
To chop a sample, you need to go the old school way: copy, truncate, place on pad / copy, truncate, place on pad etc. That's NOT fast in any way.
For the layer part tho, yeah, you just place your settings on each sound separately, but that's also not fast. I mean, the worst thing about the old school MP's is the lack of global edit controls. You have to do everything on each pad separately. And that again is not fast.
But...All these downsides are the parts I love on these old school monsters. The fact that you have to chop everything makes the whole procedure sacred.
To chop a sample, you need to go the old school way: copy, truncate, place on pad / copy, truncate, place on pad etc. That's NOT fast in any way.
For the layer part tho, yeah, you just place your settings on each sound separately, but that's also not fast. I mean, the worst thing about the old school MP's is the lack of global edit controls. You have to do everything on each pad separately. And that again is not fast.
But...All these downsides are the parts I love on these old school monsters. The fact that you have to chop everything makes the whole procedure sacred.
Toe wrote:When I got to this guys house to pick up my 60 he fired up his sp1200 and played me a beat, I almost cried, it sounded like jesus beatboxing in my ears.
Coz wrote:
Political correctness was shot dead at the door of this forum! It is funny at times though.
By numanmpc
Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:11 am
Yeah but hum,
On the 4k, that's exactly what I do, I mean I edit each of my pad one by one, sample stuff, chop it , edit it, assign it to pad.
Is there a diff way to do things on the 4k?
Logically, I wouldn't see how though I mean, you need to tweak everything with different parameters no?
On the 4k, that's exactly what I do, I mean I edit each of my pad one by one, sample stuff, chop it , edit it, assign it to pad.
Is there a diff way to do things on the 4k?
Logically, I wouldn't see how though I mean, you need to tweak everything with different parameters no?
By kebzer
Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:02 am
I think there is a Global Params control in the 4k. You can ask that over at their forum section.
Toe wrote:When I got to this guys house to pick up my 60 he fired up his sp1200 and played me a beat, I almost cried, it sounded like jesus beatboxing in my ears.
Coz wrote:
Political correctness was shot dead at the door of this forum! It is funny at times though.