Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By deepah84 Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:45 pm
Hi everyone,

i was asking myself if someone has tips to improve the sync between the 3K and logic.
Here is all good and bad points i have met:

When Logic is master and the MPC slave:

-Using Midi Clock with Song Pointer ON:

The MPC plays in sync instantly with logic, and loop mode works also if both the MPC and logic are in this mode. This could have been the perfect mode, but there is one problem: the MPC is VERY VERY capricious if when you press play in logic the song pointer is not at the beginning of a bar (9 1 1 1 by example). Either it doesn't play, or it plays at a wrong and extremely low tempo, or it plays with the good tempo but with delay so not synchronously. it means that it's not really possible to drop the song pointer in logic's timeline anywhere and launch playback, most of the time it won't work properly.

-Using Midi Time Code 30fps:

The song pointer can be dropped anywhere in the timeline of logic, the MPC always plays in sync if the same speed is set for both.
Problem: The MPC begins to play only one beat (1/4 note) later, not instantly. Loop mode doesn't work as the mpc doesn't loop on time with logic and takes delay at each return.

When the MPC is master and logic slave:

Midi clock is not available. Only MTC and same problem here, Logic plays synchronously but not instantly. It begins to play one beat (1/4 note) later. What give you a pleasant cut and click in the audio if you are listening to the tape return from logic lol. Loop doesn't work at all.
Also, as MTC is a huge amount of data, it requires to use one midi out port only for it.




I use most of the time logic as master with MTC. I would like to know if someone knows how to make the MPC playback begin faster, without lose one beat.

Or, if MIDI CLOCK is used, how to make the MPC play from anywhere you drop the song pointer in logic, it would be the best sync mode !

Héhé lol i hope someone will give some ideas !


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By Blue Haze Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:19 am
I have a 4k and 3k and it is the same I making a sequence on the mpc with the sync off first. Then once I have my sequence down I go to logic right click on the record button go to count in and set it to off. Now I record audio or midi into logic and the sync is fine using midi clock.

Plus logic doesn`t accept midi clock as a slave only as a master. You got to check up in your manual under synchronization.


Another way maybe be to insert a blank bar at the beginning of your sequence on the mpc so that both logic and mpc have time to sync up. I used to record this way with pro tools. But once I switched to logic I just do as I say above before.