Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By erkl Wed Apr 28, 2004 4:38 am
yo guys, curious if anyones played with an sp 1200, i heard it has a built in compressor so it makes shit sound fatter, but does it have a much differant sound from the mpc 60 ?

the roland x0x step editing i dont miss... thanks to the mpc

By Toecutter Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:27 am
It has a way different sound, super dirty crunchy. I don't know about a compressor but it has good analog filters, especially the lowpass filter. Shame it has such limited sampling time...

By funky-74 Wed Apr 28, 2004 5:43 pm
It always loses a little of the top end of the sound. So if you sample hihats or snares make sure u eq them properly before u sample them. It has some sort of compression inside yeah. The SP will make your drums and basslines sound HUGE and THUMPING...Almost all of your favorite late 80's and early 90's hip-hop classics where made on one of those. So cop one while u still can!
BySoul Network Sat May 01, 2004 8:54 am
I both have mpc60 and SP1200.Two totally different machines.Personally i think SP1200 is 100 times better,it sounds really crunchy and is basically easy to use.Unfortunately sequences don't sound as groovy as mpc,but the sound and the way it triggers the samples is just amazing.
The top is sequencing it through the mpc,that is what i normally do.

By funky-74 Sat May 01, 2004 7:13 pm
Hey soul network:
Have u tried setting the Bpm of the SP to double. (90Bpm is 180Bpm)
That way u can set the bar length to double and still get a pretty nice groove to your sequence. Especially when u set the swing to 72%...

By elmacaco Sat May 01, 2004 10:06 pm
the double tempo thing? Yes. I do it all the time. The swing setting may be to your liking as well.

By Kilowax Sun May 02, 2004 3:10 am
The SP1200 had no compressor inside... I eared that the SP12 got it,but not really sure.
To my opinion SP1200's one of the best sampler for drumz (dem sound loudest den a MP).If you already own a MP and you're a "Drumz Head" go for it!It's an ill combo :D

By elmacaco Sun May 02, 2004 3:26 am
it probably compresses the audio but not in the way a typical compressor does, but like an MP3 is a compressed file. it does change the sound in a good way on the old emu's though. The Sp 12 has is based on the emulator II so if you want the sound minus sequencer on the cheap, the EII or the Emax gets really close.

By Kilowax Sun May 02, 2004 3:40 am
I love my drum-machine BAADD!! :lol: I'll neva tread dem!Plus imma sampler adict!!!
Caan spend a day without SP,MP,ASR and keys!!!
Peace to Yall!!!

By funky-74 Sun May 02, 2004 4:28 pm
Daaam Elmacaco...
U do that thing also on the MP? I Never tried that

By elmacaco Sun May 02, 2004 5:11 pm
Hell yeah, all the time! doubling the tempo helps the Quanitze function have a greater resolution. You do also need to double the bars most of the time. You could just turn Quantize off, but I like this technique a lot.

By Kilowax Sun May 02, 2004 5:24 pm
elmacaco wrote:Hell yeah, all the time! doubling the tempo helps the Quanitze function have a greater resolution. You do also need to double the bars most of the time. You could just turn Quantize off, but I like this technique a lot.

Yeah, Elmacaco, you're right!! I've been using this technique since Atari w/ Cubase!!!Especially when doing a reggae beat :) .
BySoul Network Thu May 06, 2004 12:15 am
Yes,of course!
But I still prefere to pilote it from MPC sequencer,that is the top for me!The best from both worlds!

Hey soul network:
Have u tried setting the Bpm of the SP to double. (90Bpm is 180Bpm)
That way u can set the bar length to double and still get a pretty nice groove to your sequence. Especially when u set the swing to 72%...[/quote]

By oldschooler Sat May 08, 2004 9:31 am
I got a SP1200, it's the sh!t, the SP1200 got enough sample time for me, it's sounds the way i want > oldschool, crunchy drums, i use it for everything, sampling, sequencing, mixing, editing etc.,

well...it's THE sh!t, (IMHO)