MPC60 Midi implementation [track on/off - SysEx]

Hi Fellas,

I'm looking for the midi implementation chart & SysEx controls that the 3.10 OS offers (or not).

Apparently there are only 4 SysEx options to control the mixer volume and pan etc.

I have a Doepfer Regelwerk midi controller & sequencer which works like a big fader box and lots of push buttons that can be assigned to anything. My plan is to assign a button to the track on/off function so i can use it as a Track mute device...

Anyone been controlling the mixer with a fader box or some midi device ? I read on here that moving too many faders etc can cause the 60 to crash...

I would think that it could be too deep for the mpc to accept such controls as Track On/Off...

If any one has any info on that it would be cool. Also i guess the sysex controls and codes could be added to the Mpc Bible (i saw a post linking a post of Rohan on the Yahoo Group of the MPC3000 about the 3.10 midi implementation and sysex codes but i can't access it...

peace

Jerzzey DEEP wrote:Anyone been controlling the mixer with a fader box or some midi device ? I read on here that moving too many faders etc can cause the 60 to crash...

Only sending data as you need to rather than continuously will minimize the processing overhead and potential for system crashing.

Eliminating any MIDI feedback loop is also an idea worth pursuing.

Jerzzey DEEP wrote:I would think that it could be too deep for the mpc to accept such controls as Track On/Off...

Maybe ? Or not. I have seen folk do it before.

I have done it minimally here in the lab.

Jerzzey DEEP wrote:If any one has any info on that it would be cool. Also i guess the sysex controls and codes could be added to the Mpc Bible (i saw a post linking a post of Rohan on the Yahoo Group of the MPC3000 about the 3.10 midi implementation and sysex codes but i can't access it...

Then I, Rohan will re-quote part of said thread here:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MPC3000/message/2221 wrote:
Drum mixer volume change:

11110000 System exclusive header
01000111 Akai ID (47H)
0000xxxx Unit number (midi channel # 1-16)
01000100 44H
01000xxx Akai product ID (MPC60 = 45H, ASQ10=46H)
00000001 Parameter ID: 01 = Drum mix volume
000xxxxx Drum number (0-31)
0xxxxxxx Data: 0 (off) - 127 (full volume)

Drum mixer pan change:

11110000 System exclusive header
01000111 Akai ID (47H)
0000xxxx Unit number (midi channel # 1-16)
01000100 44H
01000xxx Akai product ID (MPC60 = 45H, ASQ10=46H)
00000010 Parameter ID: 02 = Drum mix pan
000xxxxx Drum number (0-31)
0000xxxx Data: 0 (full left) - 14 (full right)

Echo mixer volume change:

11110000 System exclusive header
01000111 Akai ID (47H)
0000xxxx Unit number (midi channel # 1-16)
01000100 44H
01000xxx Akai product ID (MPC60 = 45H, ASQ10=46H)
00000011 Parameter ID: 03 = Drum mix volume
000xxxxx Drum number (0-31)
0xxxxxxx Data: 0 (off) - 127 (full volume)

Drum tuning change:

11110000 System exclusive header
01000111 Akai ID (47H)
0000xxxx Unit number (midi channel # 1-16)
01000100 44H
01000xxx Akai product ID (MPC60 = 45H, ASQ10=46H)
00000100 Parameter ID: 04= Drum mix volume
000xxxxx Drum number (0-31)
0xxxxxxx Pitch data MSB
0xxxxxxx Pitch data LSB

They last two bytes above represent a 14 bit pitch change word with a
range of = 0 - 4000H in increments of 1/2 cent.

Where 2000H = no change.

Hope this helps.

Rohan

Interesting stuff.

Thanks for the info Rohan and to the OP for asking.

I'd like to see this working on the 60 and a 3000 with a small midi fader unit.

mpc3000le wrote:

Jerzzey DEEP wrote:I would think that it could be too deep for the mpc to accept such controls as Track On/Off...

Maybe ? Or not. I have seen folk do it before.

I have done it minimally here in the lab.

Hi Rohan,

Have you now?... Any possibility for you to tell me more about your experimentations and what those folks u'v seen been doing too.

THanks for the SysEx list, same as the Mpc 60 2.0 manual found on akai's website.

Thanks

clint246clint wrote:Interesting stuff.

Yes...

Not mentioned in the MPC3000 manual at all

clint246clint wrote:Thanks for the info Rohan and to the OP for asking.

No problem.

clint246clint wrote:I'd like to see this working on the 60 and a 3000 with a small midi fader unit.

On the yahoo groups MPC3000 list there were quite a few users making Logic Environments to do this task.

A few more using the Peavy 1600 type controllers.

I vaguely remember some one using one of the Behringer controllers, BCF type I think...

Jerzzey DEEP wrote:Have you now?... Any possibility for you to tell me more about your experimentations and what those folks u'v seen been doing too.

MIDI-OX capture, test and monitor tool for MIDI DATA for testing actual function.

PEAVY PC1600

Jerzzey DEEP wrote:THanks for the SysEx list, same as the Mpc 60 2.0 manual found on akai's website.

I believe it should be the same. ( I have never done any checking with version 2.XX of the MPC60 OS )

One point of mention left out of my original reply.

The actual Volume parameter tops out at 100, not 127.

Keep this in mind when sending messages to control the channel Volume.

Good luck.

Rohan

Word.

I may have to enter the Yahoo world see what else those guy's get up to with their MPC's.

ok years but i've found the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPRGg2Z_yU

oook it took a while but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd_5U_mGgpU

it's here