Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By mpc_60_wales Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:27 am
When sampling kicks from my Tanzbar into the MPC 60 they seem to lose some of the bottom end. Is this right? Im sampling quite hot. Any tips? Cheers
By Acid Mitch Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:07 pm
mpc_60_wales wrote: Is this right?



Yes.

mpc_60_wales wrote: Im sampling quite hot. Any tips? Cheers


Use some eq to boost the bass.
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By jibber Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:18 pm
60 gives me the best results out of all the samplers i ever owned when sampling drums. Sampling hot usually works best, but maybe you are sampling too hot? If you get distortion, back up a little on the gain.

It's normal to loose a little low end, but it shouldn't be a lot on the 60, it's quite good in this regard IMO. Play with the gain settings... (also the gain selector switch on the back).
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By peterpiper Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:33 pm
I don't own a 60 but a s900 and s950 and both show the same behaviour (well more like a lil bit less lows and a bit boost on the hi end of the frequencyy spectrum.

peace
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By Shostakovich Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:49 am
you're sampling an analogue kick into a bit depth of 12.

something's gotta give.
By Acid Mitch Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:55 am
Bits affect volume, not frequency and the 60 is 16 bit , not 12.
It records and plays back at 16 bit, but stores sounds in a 12 bit format..
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By Shostakovich Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:13 pm
Actually, it's amplitude, not volume. But my point is it's a difference in level rather than low end the OP is hearing. Unless he cares to provide a frequency analysis to back up his claim.

Btw, 12-bit storage is just that. Playback at 16 won't magically give your sample and extra 2-3 bits headroom. Only the D/A does that. So 12 bit is exactly that. Same with the Emax. 8-bit.
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By SimonInAustralia Sat Sep 06, 2014 1:46 pm
Sound Generator

• Sampling rate: 40kHz (frequency response: 20Hz–18kHz)
• Data format: 16-bit A/D and D/A converters; samples stored in special non-linear 12-bit format for much lower noise than 12-bit linear systems
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By mr_debauch Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:50 pm
well you can lower the pitch on each drum sample like -3 or -6.. sometimes that helps.. also you can leave it not so bassy and add in a bass sound here and there.

I got a regular sine wave style bass sound and sampled it in the 60 and did the pitch down thing for the drums in this track:
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By Shostakovich Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:50 pm
SimonInAustralia wrote:
Sound Generator

• Sampling rate: 40kHz (frequency response: 20Hz–18kHz)
• Data format: 16-bit A/D and D/A converters; samples stored in special non-linear 12-bit format for much lower noise than 12-bit linear systems


yes. and by reducing word length some of the signal gets lost in the noise. That or there is a perception of signal loss due to loudness contours. Whatever the reason, a sampled sound can never be analogous to its source.

regards.