Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By Basshead Tue May 31, 2005 7:30 pm
Does anyone here transfer samples from a computer (Mac) to the MPC60?

By spectre Tue May 31, 2005 8:09 pm
You can't do it by scsi. Only floppy.
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By redgreenz Tue May 31, 2005 8:47 pm
you could also use a zip drive.....
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By DEEPDOWNINSIDE Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:39 am
i think you can do it with Recycle or an MPC2000. I have an 60II and I use my Mpc2k to send samples back and forth. ( Take that homieS!)
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By redgreenz Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:01 pm
redgreenz wrote:you could also use a zip drive.....
I forgot to mention some key stuff:

1. As you may or may not know, the MPC 60 DOES not use .WAV files, only .SND files.

2. If you have .WAV files, you'll need to convert them to .SND format. This is easily done using the MPC Editor (for PC's), found at www.midicase.com If you have a MAC, then you'll need the MPC PGM Maker, found at
http://homepage.mac.com/seishu/ssworks/MpcPgmMaker.html

Recycle isn't going to help you in this situation, because it doesn't export .SND files, only .WAV and .REX Check out the MPC Bible/FAQ sticky at the top of this forum, they've put some good stuff together.

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By elmacaco Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:10 pm
MPC's don;t support scsi connections to computers.

By Basshead Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:35 pm
That was the amswer I was looking for right there.

Thanx Elmacaco.

I have some old software that will do SMDI to most samplers and will transfer to the SP1200. MPC's don't appear on the list so I wasn't sure. I think I've tried my MPC2KXL - no luck. I was going to get a an MPC60 - maybe I should get an SP1200 instead (?)

Do the MPC60s even have a SCSI connection?
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By redgreenz Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:58 pm
Basshead wrote:Do the MPC60s even have a SCSI connection?


Uhhh, only if you install the OS 3.10 upgrade and the Marion Systems SCSI board. Check out the FAQ at the top of this forum, they've put some good stuff together.... :wink:

By elmacaco Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:14 pm
read the first posat in the 60 FAQ for all you need to know.
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By MarkWolbirgh Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:17 pm
elmacaco wrote:MPC's don;t support scsi connections to computers.


Can't you get a USB-SCSI thing, so it uses your computers HD like a SCSI ,then connect that to a MPC?

By goldenechos Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:43 pm
MarkWolbirgh wrote:
elmacaco wrote:MPC's don;t support scsi connections to computers.


Can't you get a USB-SCSI thing, so it uses your computers HD like a SCSI ,then connect that to a MPC?


USB to SCSI is not at all fool proof. I had loads of trouble using it with a K2000 (and that sampler is made to connect to a computer VIA SCSI).

I think the thing to bear in mind with regards to this topic is that the MPC60 was not designed in a time when musicians were using computers as much as they do today. Most MPC users, back in 1989, would not have had much use for computer connectability as people where not downloading samples from the internet, ripping CDs or even recording audio to computers. The most wide spread "musical" use for personal computers at that point was midi sequencing, which if you had a MPC, would be of little use...

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BESIDES, the best thing about the MPC60 sound is the sampling engine! You get MOST of that "mpc 60 sound" in the sampling and less so in the playback.

If you want computer connectivity GET THE MPC1000, you will NOT be dissappointed. I picked one up for a project that calls for a portable sequencer and I have been really impressed with the ease of use. I have transferred ENTIRE sample CDs to the MPC1000 in one swift "drag and drop" motion.

T

By elmacaco Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:17 pm
No f you want computer connectivity get the MPC Editor and the 3.10 OS. Then you can export whatever you want to the 60.

Not many 12 bit samplers have that kind of computer support.

By earwolf Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:59 pm
goldenechos wrote:BESIDES, the best thing about the MPC60 sound is the sampling engine! You get MOST of that "mpc 60 sound" in the sampling and less so in the playback.


is this true? does that mean you lose the funk if you are chopping on a pc then transferring to mpc via floppy/zip?

By goldenechos Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:15 pm
earwolf wrote:
goldenechos wrote:BESIDES, the best thing about the MPC60 sound is the sampling engine! You get MOST of that "mpc 60 sound" in the sampling and less so in the playback.


is this true? does that mean you lose the funk if you are chopping on a pc then transferring to mpc via floppy/zip?


Are suggesting that you record and chop loops in the PC and then transfer to the MPC60 (using the above mentioned software) for sequencing? If so, then it will sound different than just sampling straight into the 60.

Try it, and you will hear the difference.

I used to use a software to transfer wav files to my Ensoniq Mirage via midi sds. Those transfers NEVER sounded as good as what was sampled directly into the Mirage. Most of those transfer softwares truncate the sound file to the correct bit rate so that the sampler can use it. This is VERY different than sampling a sound at 8bit or 12bit.

ALSO, most of the older 8bit, 12bit sample use something along the lines of analog input filtering to make use of the Nyquist theory for digital recording (this is due to the limited dynamic range of digital recordings under 16bit). This analog low pass filter on the input DEF. imparts an IMPROVED sound quality to Low Bit Rate Sampling. READ ABOUT IT HERE:

http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/Multimedia/node150.html

warning the above link is some SERIOUS geek.

T

By elmacaco Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:16 am
No, hes saying what you are saying, the sound is in the sampling, not just the playback (loading samples from PC or Mac)

I agree with both of you.