Who does their sampling.......

In the 60...

I use the s1000 but I go back and forth alot.

Sampling on the 60 is quicker in my opinion so its easier to get into the zone.

But when I need more sampling time or I need more extensive editing I use the s1000.

Just wondering....


Who Samples With Their 60?

When I first got the 60 and still had the 3000 and 950. I rarely sampled into it b/c I was used to having 360sec in the 3k and the 60 only had 26.2 and I was burning that real fast from loading kits and trying to do multiple samples. After I got rid of the 3k, kept the 60 and got a 1200 I still used the 60 just for drums and s950 for loops. Things done changed though, don't even use the s950 no more (well actually I do, but for more than loops now) and it's maxed all around. Cool thing about the 60 is you can really pound it while the S950 peaks real easy...I also love that little compressor thing the 60 has. Pretty fly machine if I can say so...

Best thing I learned a while back was to just mess with your gear in all aspects. Right now I'm running strictly the 2 stereo outs from the 60 to a 4 track and using it solo. Learning a lot more about the machine than I thought it was capable off. Word bond, the other day I sampled almost a minute of various tidbits from a song and crammed it all into the 60 and still had memory left. Crazy machine it is. Damn, I'm drolling and rambling at the same time

Lately I been having fun chopping drum kits from records and samplin them into the 60, and then sending them to the 950, 1200 or 30 for modifications. I seen how them brothas did it in the old days and I'm loving it. You know, the days when dudes only had 2 kits and they freaked them 2 kits into 10 kits that all sound different.....makes me laugh at the mpc1000 forum where guys post up free kits yousendit style and the kit got 48 kicks, 37 snares, 100 hihats, and a couple guitar licks all wrapped up in a program ready to load in the mp. Just silly.

Yeah I know what you mean. But I don't know what you mean about the "compressor"? The 60 has a compressor?

Well, not really a "compressor" but yeah really a compressor. Check out the FAQ on this forum and I think Elmacaco wrote something bout it in there.

It's in the new o.s 3.1 or whatever. It compacts the samples kb size to conserve memory. Sometimes it changes the sound of whatever your compacting but that's not always a good thing.

Oh. Now I no what your talking about. Its that sound compression features. I use that all the time. I thought you were talking of a compressor.......COMPRESSOR!


I guess nobody else samples on there 60.

same thing in function though. 60 crushes kb's to smaller size to save memory. Compressor crushes and gates sounds to smooth out b*tches who can't sing, and emcees with puny voices and drum and base so you can pump it up in the mix without bustin the dials.

Nah man, totally different things. a compressor deals with level, the sound compression deals with data size.

I sample in my 60 all the time.

elmacaco wrote:I sample in my 60 all the time.

Do you filter elsewhere or just not filter at all?

elmacaco wrote:Nah man, totally different things. a compressor deals with level, the sound compression deals with data size.

I sample in my 60 all the time.

you know what I'm getting at. You could look at data size as a level. For example when when the mpc says "memory exceeded, either delete some sounds or don't try to add anything else" you've exceeded the level or amount of data allowed. You compress that data to save or create more space. Same scenario when you've got uncompressed drums or bass that you want to pump up but its mudding up the mix and throwing everything off, you compress so you can pump up the gain without peaking the mix...(especially in a digital realm where we get nasty clipping. Same ish with a female who cant keep a tone and keeps spiking through or a instrument that creshendos and twangs funny at times, I'ma put a theshold on them sharp notes she hits to gate that level out of the recording and keep everything smooth.

Now of course, its alot more technical than that and you got more experience in that realm than I do, but thats the way I figured the stuff out in my head. Now if I'm wrong, i never take offense at being corrected so come on through.

grimaybeats555 wrote:

elmacaco wrote:I sample in my 60 all the time.

Do you filter elsewhere or just not filter at all?

you can hook a filter or fx unit right up to the 60. Its got the send and returns on the back by the input level thingy. And then you can control the amount of filtering or fx from the mix menu in the 60. Sorry for the vague discription, I know my 60 by hand and head but i couldnt tell you what 1/2 the buttons are labelled as. I got my compressor, fx unit and filters running off my console but since I've been using the 60 solo, I hook a midiverb4 straight up to the mp.

So... I'll be able to control the filter unit just as I can control the filter on my S1000? Thats Cool! I was kind of like whats the point of the filter units when you have to keep resampling the sound. I'll have to look into them more now. Do you have any idea what specs a filter unit has to have to be able to work like this? I know the mfc has midi.

not sure what your question is there. I just dial in the settings on the FX box or filter box and then in the individual mix out/and stereo mix out section of the 60 I mess with the level of wet that.

But

Its alot easier to hook the fx unit up on the aux's on your mixer. And then you can put a little on whatever track you want and mix dry and wet together if you like.

60 is all that I sample on. I want a s950 though.

I've used the MFC filter with my 60 using the echo return thing.

Something Like That wrote:makes me laugh at the mpc1000 forum where guys post up free kits yousendit style and the kit got 48 kicks, 37 snares, 100 hihats, and a couple guitar licks all wrapped up in a program ready to load in the mp. Just silly.

grimaybeats555 wrote:

elmacaco wrote:I sample in my 60 all the time.

Do you filter elsewhere or just not filter at all?

Most samples don't need much filtering. I have the 8 outs hooked up to my board where I use the EQ always and have filters available for inserts, but even on my emax I tend to use filtering for more synthesis type stuff than treating samples, I think EQ is much more useful than a low pass on samples. But that's me, I don't get down like a lot of cats.