Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
By Tohtruck Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:25 am
Yet another question. I will be getting my first MPC this week. I will be getting an MPC 60II (not sure if there are any upgrades on it or what OS is installed). I normally use my PC with software for music.

I would like to be able to edit samples (from my PC as well as samples from the 60) on my computer. Are there any software out there that can read snd files? Would Sony Soundforge, Steinberg WaveLab (or Cubase SX3), or Propellerhead Recycle be able to read snd files from the mpc 60 for editing? Or would I have to convert the snd files from the 60 into wav files for editing on the PC?

If so, what is a good program for converting snd files to and from wavs?

Likewise if I wanted to use a wav file taken from my PC for use on the MPC 60, how would I go about doing so?

Thanks

By 2wice Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:46 am
One way is to convert the wav to the 3000 snd format and then put the file on a floppy to load on the 60. You'll have to have OS v3.10 though.

A better way IMO is to just sample the wav and not mess with the conversion.

One thing you won't be doing is sampling in the 60 and then editing on the computer.

By Tohtruck Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:08 pm
2wice wrote:A better way IMO is to just sample the wav and not mess with the conversion.

One thing you won't be doing is sampling in the 60 and then editing on the computer.


Why wouldn't I be sampling in the 60 and then editing on the computer?

Again, this probably shows my inexperience with MPC's. But wouldn't it be easier to edit samples. add effects, chop, etc. with computer software. Especially since it provides a visual of the waveform?

By 2wice Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:50 pm
Why wouldn't I be sampling in the 60 and then editing on the computer?

Because there no editing software that will read a 12-Bit SND file.

Again, this probably shows my inexperience with MPC's. But wouldn't it be easier to edit samples. add effects, chop, etc. with computer software. Especially since it provides a visual of the waveform?

It really depends on your setup. Are the bulk of your samples on the computer? Do you have records you sample from? Do you own a mixer with FX sends? Do you have an FX unit?

For phrase sampling non-visual sample trimming should suit anybody just fine BTW.

If you heavily rely on the computer there are better MPCs for you.

Although it might be intersting for you to not connect the MPC to the computer and then you can develop 2 styles of beats.

By Tohtruck Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:12 am
2wice wrote:[i]Because there no editing software that will read a 12-Bit SND file.

It really depends on your setup. Are the bulk of your samples on the computer? Do you have records you sample from? Do you own a mixer with FX sends? Do you have an FX unit?

For phrase sampling non-visual sample trimming should suit anybody just fine BTW.

If you heavily rely on the computer there are better MPCs for you.

Although it might be intersting for you to not connect the MPC to the computer and then you can develop 2 styles of beats.


Yeah the bulk of my samples are on the computer. Yes, I have records. I do not own a mixer with FX sends. My audio interface/keyboard (Novation X-Station) has built DSP for incoming audio.

Couldn't I use the Wavsnd converter program to convert samples from the 60 to wavs, so that I can edit them in software and then convert them back to snd (using the converter) and put them back on the 60 (assuming that I have the OS 3.1 or will eventually upgrade to 3.1)?

Yeah in way I wanted to get the MPC to try another mode of production. Everyone always talks about the workflow of working with hardware. And sometimes software and working with a computer can be very frustrating. Plus I was in dire need of dirty drums and wanted a different kind of sound in my beats.
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By Nino304 Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:05 am
Get the MPC editor... it's worth the $$$ and does everything u described in your post. U can do all your editing on the PC, convert it 2 snd/ create pgms and save 2 disk 4 use in the 60.

Just a note but the 60 is not the typical "dirty" sound that most 12-bit samplers have. Some may disagree but it has a clean sound 4 a 12-bit sampler (no effects necessary). Enjoy the 60. -uno-

By DirtyMan Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:05 am
i think the old sample editor Alchemy would transsfer samples via midi ... i used use it with my emax and casio fz's it was mac only .. does anybody have a copy dammm i wish i still had mine right about now it would be well worth having an old 040 mac and that program

By Kailid Sat Jun 17, 2006 5:13 pm
DirtyMan wrote:i think the old sample editor Alchemy would transsfer samples via midi
WoW that's a new one. How in the world do you transfer a sample via midi?
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By rokuez Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:23 pm
Nino304 wrote:Get the MPC editor... it's worth the $$$ and does everything u described in your post. U can do all your editing on the PC, convert it 2 snd/ create pgms and save 2 disk 4 use in the 60.

Just a note but the 60 is not the typical "dirty" sound that most 12-bit samplers have. Some may disagree but it has a clean sound 4 a 12-bit sampler (no effects necessary). Enjoy the 60. -uno-


I usually edit .wav files in the program goldwave, then i assign them to the pads and make a .pgm file with MPC Editor. I have a Iomega PCI card which i use to connect my computer with my iomega 250 meg zip drive. I then use MPC Editor to transfer/backup all my pgm and .snd files .

The 60 definitely isn't a dirty sound in the sense that the sp1200 has dirty cracking/crispy drums, but the 60 has thump to its drums real good midrange. Layering drums and just putting them on full level really makes the 60's sound come out.

definitely get the mpc editor because it integrates file swapping / backing up with ure PC
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By switch18 Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:32 pm
rokuez wrote:
Nino304 wrote:Get the MPC editor... it's worth the $$$ and does everything u described in your post. U can do all your editing on the PC, convert it 2 snd/ create pgms and save 2 disk 4 use in the 60.

Just a note but the 60 is not the typical "dirty" sound that most 12-bit samplers have. Some may disagree but it has a clean sound 4 a 12-bit sampler (no effects necessary). Enjoy the 60. -uno-


I usually edit .wav files in the program goldwave, then i assign them to the pads and make a .pgm file with MPC Editor. I have a Iomega PCI card which i use to connect my computer with my iomega 250 meg zip drive. I then use MPC Editor to transfer/backup all my pgm and .snd files .

The 60 definitely isn't a dirty sound in the sense that the sp1200 has dirty cracking/crispy drums, but the 60 has thump to its drums real good midrange. Layering drums and just putting them on full level really makes the 60's sound come out.

definitely get the mpc editor because it integrates file swapping / backing up with ure PC


I have to say the MPC Editor is a good tool to have. I have the one for the Mac (MPCPGMMAKER) and have had a few issues with it and my MPC's. Could be my OS, but the MPC Editor works well. Too bad most of my samples are on the Mac!

By hiredesign Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:20 am
Kailid wrote:
DirtyMan wrote:i think the old sample editor Alchemy would transsfer samples via midi
WoW that's a new one. How in the world do you transfer a sample via midi?


midi sample dump.

i never knew of it before i got hardware, and thought the idea of sending data over midi was ludacris. then i used it and i was amazed..