Trade my MPC2000 for an MPC60 ? The Sound? The Sequencer?

What's up,
I would like advices from you guys.

I'm producing hip-hop/r&b and pop.

I've been using an MPC-2000 (not XL) since 5 years. It is the brain of my studio. I love the sequencer, but since I got an Ensoniq ASR-10 I realize that my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess.

I found somebody who is willing to exchange his old MPC-60 for my MPC-2000 (and 200 $). This way I'll have the old school 12 bit sounds I've always been searching for.

My question is:
What about the sequencer? Should I keep my MPC-2000 (I really like it, and I'm used to it)? Or should I take the MPC-60 route? I've heard some people who said that the groove of the 60 is the "real" deal, while others say that the MPC-2000 is more modern.

What do you think?

A couple of things:

First, unlike the 2000,which can be expanded to 32 megs,(which is roughly 6 minutes mono), the 60 is only expandable to about 2 megs, which is 26 seconds mono. That's if the 60 you're thinking about getting is equipped with a) version 3.10
b) expanded memory
As far as the sequencer, you be the judge. Alot of people say what they've "heard," not neccesarily what they know or have experienced. I have owned both a 2000xl and a 60, they both have really great sequencers. I use my 60 as the "brains" of my setup, and i'll be selling my 2000xl shortly.That's my decision, because I think the advantages of the 60 outweigh the limitations. My biggest peice of advice is whatever you're comfortable with, go for it.Also, I wouldn't take a 60 without 3.10.Just my $0.02

also the real REAL reason alot of the "pro" producers use the 3000 and 60 has alot to do with the fact that these guys have been in the industry long enough to have gotten used to the gear they have....one thing you'll realize is that when the 60 and 3k was out, there really wasnt an alternative('cept the sp12 and asr) so they've just stuck to what was getting the job done...I remember reading an article that said that there are very few recording artists in the game who are gearwhores...I mean, its common sense-why change uop your way of doing things if you have been successful thus far with what you have?....most of these guys just dont have the time or inclination to learn new gear-not necessarily about preference over one machine or the next.....I say get rid of your 2000 if you're really worried about what others will think over whether or not you have been productive with what you have.....

ajouffa wrote:What's up,
I love the sequencer, but since I got an Ensoniq ASR-10 I realize that my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess.

Basically.

DOVESKI wrote:

ajouffa wrote:What's up,
I love the sequencer, but since I got an Ensoniq ASR-10 I realize that my MPC doesn't sound good and pro at all. That's why all the big producers are still using the MPC-3000 or 60 I guess.

Basically.

it's all up to who's making the music and how they work their equipment.to hell with "mpc3k is better,no 60 is better or the 2kxl" like many people have said it's all up to you and what you can do with what you got.

my duece cents beeyaaaaaatch!

As a former owner of a MPC60 and a current MPC3000 owner, I love my jawn. But I wouldn't trade a 2000 for either. Now, maybe there is some small difference in the sound between the 2000 and the 3000 sound engine. Of course there is a difference between the 60 and the 2000. But, I think you can tweak samples in the process of the mix or in the sampling.

Ajouffa, you said that he MPC doesn't sound good compared to your ASR. So, now it's about how you tweak the sounds yourself or what samples you have. As opposed to dumping the unit, it may be time to step up your skills and do some studying. Clearly as a sampler, the 2000 can pretty much sound like anything. So, it's gotta be in the mix and in the actual sampling itself where the dissatisfaction lies.

I'd suggest that you hang with it for a little while longer and do some serious work in those other areas to refine your sound.

Peace.

homershines


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Well, maybe a stupid answer but erm... If it doesn't sound "as good as" it probably comes down to taste. But you know how your 2000 works so if you ask me I'd say you keep it and use it as a sequencer for your asr. Just take the best of both worlds...

thegreatmuffin wrote:Well, maybe a stupid answer but erm... If it doesn't sound "as good as" it probably comes down to taste. But you know how your 2000 works so if you ask me I'd say you keep it and use it as a sequencer for your asr. Just take the best of both worlds...

Best of both worlds indeed.

hell yea. can't wait to get an asr 10. i think it will bring me wonderful things.

butcher wrote:hell yea. can't wait to get an asr 10. i think it will bring me wonderful things.

It's old but it's such a monster when used to even half it's capability IMO.
I've banged out drums on my ASR that people swore up and down I programmed on my MPC.

work on yourself more then swapping gear.


if you cant make good music with a 2000 then you should retire and learn how to knit.

D_Samp wrote:if you cant make good music with a 2000 then you should retire and learn how to knit.

Great stuff!! haha

Knit 1 pearl 2, pick up that stitch that's all you do..

Stick with the 2000 dawg. Why take backwards steps. You can get everything out of the 2000 you can get out of the 60.... times 10. It's really all about the sounds you put in it, and like dude said, the mix. Please keep your 2000. Just my opinion.

keep the 2000. if guys like kenny dope, wajeed, and pete rock are making unbelievable stuff with their 2000's then it certainly isnt the gear. get a 3000 if you like, but it aint gonna magically change your beats. i mean madlib does rough beats on much less than an mpc!

easy

Get the 60..... no question. Its really beautiful to use.