Dope suprise!

So ive had my 60 for about 6 months. bought it off a pawn shop on ebay for $380 with shipping. Had a burnt out backlight and os 2.12. All this time i was always trying to fit my samples into 13 seconds. Haha just realized i had the memory expansion this whole time. I was like HOLY SHIT. A whole nother 13 seconds to make 26 total opens a whole new world to my beats.

Just thought id vent that haha peace

in 6 months you never even turned the data wheel all the way to the right to find out?

now sample at 45rpm and 8+ pitch for even more time (by pitching down of course in the 60--usually -80 range depending upon the genre of music sampled)!

No i did but pads had a max of 5.0 seconds and also i guess i was always chopping up kits mainly thus far and not any real big main samples. At least on my 60. So it was a pleasant surprise to realize i had the full memory though. And now that i think about it, ive had it for more like 4 months

highlife wrote:in 6 months you never even turned the data wheel all the way to the right to find out?

now sample at 45rpm and 8+ pitch for even more time (by pitching down of course in the 60--usually -80 range depending upon the genre of music sampled)!

could you explain this please to me ?

Dj Proces wrote:

highlife wrote:in 6 months you never even turned the data wheel all the way to the right to find out?

now sample at 45rpm and 8+ pitch for even more time (by pitching down of course in the 60--usually -80 range depending upon the genre of music sampled)!

could you explain this please to me ?

When you sample, play the record at 45 rpm (or faster if you can). This way you turn a long sample into a shorter one. Then inside the MPC, you pitch the sample down to it's normal tune. It's playing at the right speed, but the actual file is a lot smaller.

This is good for machines that don't have much sample time. You get to use a lot more samples. It also just gives a cool effect to your sounds. I do it on every single one of my samples.

this "sample at 45 rpm"technique is not new to me, but what draw my attention in your previous post is that you said that it depends on the genre of music. why does it depend?

I didn't say that, the original poster did. I don't know why....

hey sorry, i did not pay attention to the name. stupid. Highlife thinks "oh shit nobody knew that" and keeps his mouth shut i think haha

Dj Proces wrote:hey sorry, i did not pay attention to the name. stupid. Highlife thinks "oh **** nobody knew that" and keeps his mouth shut i think haha

quit frontin', kid. i'm tryin' to help you, dumb@ss.

different genres = different tempos. if you're sampling fast music (i dunno, maybe some upbeat bossa nova, latin, or fast jazz, somewhere in like the 115+ BPM range at 45 & 8+ pitch) you have to tune down as far as the -100/-120 range to have it sound right. other genres like reggae or blues that might be around the 90 BPM range might only have to be tuned down to the -80 range.

take it or leave it the f' alone

when sampled in 45rpm +8%, pitching down to around -60~-62 should return the sample to its original speed/pitch. when sampling sped up, watch the levels, because the record will play louder(ever notice 45s playing louder than 12"?) and can cause clipping. also, you'll get alot more rumble, so eq'ing before sampling will help.

thanks guys!

I think i know why i didnt notice the memory expansion before, its because it isnt recognized all the time.. sometimes i boot up and goto the disk/load screen and it says 700 and some odd kb of ram, then i turn it off and on and it notices 1500+ kb... maybe a failing memory expansion, maybe a loose connection.. i dont know im going to open her up and have a look..

I already listen to this "Hi-Speed sample" method but i never experiment...
i think i will soon!!
If i have right understood i need to pitch the Record as speeder as i can (45rmp and +8% seems to be good) and then after sampling in my MPC60, i need to detune down ( i think it's on Sound Menu and then 2 option...

About how much memory does it represent if we consider the sample after detuning as we normally sample?

I often sample at 78rpm (if the record is good enough so that it dont skip). Then I have to pitch the sample down 147 in the MPC to get the original tempo (i did some test comparing pitch. You wont get it exactly the right tempo, its a tiny bit off, and -147 was closest the O.G.). I guess i use under half the space on the samples sampled and pitched this way.

At 33rpm +50% I tune down 60 or something, I guess I use maybe 3/4 of the space?.

I dont know how much you save by doing 45 rpm+8%, but you propably save around 1/4.

But the space you save is not all, the lo-fi sound is dope!

But I'm not good with math, so I may be wrong on the calculating.

Get a deck with 78rpm speed or a 50% pitch fader, thats fly!

That's very interesting topic!
I will make some test with different pitch way...

I think, i already have listen to about the lo-fi sampling, on the 60.Does it work with the sampling frequency?or something like that, i maybe don't use the correct word...sorry.
I will search on the Forum because i think this way of sampling give more "color" to the sound, isn't it?