The New Maschine Studio: NI just BODIED the Renaissance.....

This is impressive

MPC-Tutor wrote:Yep, certainly makes the Ren look like seriously ancient tech (which it is). Those hi res, full colour LCD displays just completely shame the dot matrix MPC displays. It's like having two mini computer screens.

Marketing is a different class as well.

I assume this means Akai will be furiously designing the Ren Mk 2. Anyone remember people insisting that the Ren hardware was to be a 'constant' while only the software needed to be updated? 12 months later, it now seems inconceivable that Akai will stick with the current Ren hardware for much longer.

Still, let's see what it's like under the hood. But I'm definitely getting one.

Me too! Shipping the MPC Studio back to ZZounds, pre-ordering Maschine Studio.

Funny how things work out. Just about this time last year we were laughing at videos of dudes unwrapping the new Ren and throwing their Maschine in the trash can.

Somehow I don't think that will be the case with the new Maschine:)

Oh the irony

DJ Hellfire wrote:Just for the simple fact Akai already used the name Studio, I would have gone with a different name for the new Maschine!

...OR is it N.I. with a subtle pimpslap declaring "...now THIS is a Studio" Maschine?

I always wondered why Akai named the portable lightweight model the Studio.

Hobbs wrote:Makes you wonder if AKAI were really listening to their customers when undongling the software...or if they were just doing it as a necessity because they heard whispers of what was coming down the pipe @ NI

It also explains the sudden MPC Element announcement as a "new", revolutionary product line. It was simply a last ditch attempt at unloading the failed MPC Fly hardware.

Let me be clear, I will keep my MPC Ren and hope that Akai continues to aggressively develop it because I do like the workflow - but, I am ordering the new Maschine Studio. I will get rid of my original and from the quick info I read and saw - NI has knocked it clear out of the park.

Competition is good. I hope this motivates Akai to keep going.

http://www.native-instruments.com/maschinestudio

http://www.native-instruments.com/en/sp ... ese/#video

i doubt akai had any idea this was coming. i dont think ren price drop / element were any way indicative of some insider knowledge of maschine coming. these companies try to be tight-lipped and the direct competition is the last person they would want to know.

if akai had any idea im sure they wouldnt be wasting there time on what they have, they would have been frantically preparing a response.

i mean if maschine studio (hilarious name choice btw) is the 'response' to the element - things look pretty hilarious. what is akais 'response' going to be?

the one thing they do have is the mpc workflow, janky as it is trying to be 'updated', but i can appreciate the difference there.

but this just exposes the ren pricetag / shortcomings even further.

those screens are insane.

This is the Bridge Wars all over again...

NI's new microsite called
http://www.beat-these.com

Thats the pimp slap.

psr wrote:This is the Bridge Wars all over again...

NI's new microsite called
http://www.beat-these.com

Thats the pimp slap.

To put it lightly.

Well, i still prefer the Ren controller, except the one on maschine studio has 2 high res screens, but im ok with the one on the Ren. Maschine studio has no integrated audio interface.

However, the software seems to have a real good mixer, supports multicore and has much better expansions.

They are still missing audio tracks but that's it.

Maschine 2.0 is way ahead of MPC Software...

moyphee wrote:

psr wrote:This is the Bridge Wars all over again...

NI's new microsite called
http://www.beat-these.com

Thats the pimp slap.

To put it lightly.

youre right... its a down right stomp kick. bite the curb style.

Upright wrote:Native Instruments "Beat These" marketing promo...you gotta wonder if the "Beat These" is directed at Akai.

http://www.native-instruments.com/en/sp ... beat-these

you damn right it is...

This isn't a kill the MPC type product, as much as it looks like it at first glance. The workflow is still completely different. The MPC still takes other hardware instruments seriously as part of your studio while NI with Maschine still seem like they haven't done much with MIDI control of external gear other than add a few more ports. I'm sure eventually they will but until they add things like MIDI CC LSB/MSB etc, there are some areas where the Ren still has an advantage.

Still that controller is pretty sexy to me, and I love the next to complete lack of need for a keyboard or mouse... slide a mac MINI under it with no monitor that automatically starts Maschine when it starts up and you have almost a completely stand alone device with the power of a computer.

Thats where this whole market is heading.... we leave the hardware for the power of computers only to come full circle and make the computer part of the controller and we have a hardware device again...


1.6 is going to be the best release we've ever seen.... mark my words lol

psr wrote:

moyphee wrote:

psr wrote:This is the Bridge Wars all over again...

NI's new microsite called
http://www.beat-these.com

Thats the pimp slap.

To put it lightly.

youre right... its a down right stomp kick. bite the curb style.

Upright wrote:Native Instruments "Beat These" marketing promo...you gotta wonder if the "Beat These" is directed at Akai.

http://www.native-instruments.com/en/sp ... beat-these

you damn right it is...

This is so next level it made me think of the Open Labs Dbeat,lol. But after looking at the videos and pics. Maschine Studio blows that away too and the Dbeat was like $3,500 when it came out.

and truth be told, it is not a fair comparison of software considering the lead Maschine has... Akai had the lead on hardware and still does with the audio interface and overall build (of course I haven't handled the new mashine but assume it is of similar quality to the old). the one hardware feature that's killer is those two screens. the software is way ahead but hopefully Akai will catch up and have done well in the past year of upgrades.

Airyck wrote:This isn't a kill the MPC type product, as much as it looks like it at first glance. The workflow is still completely different.

I hate the Maschine workflow but there is too much being made about this. This product will appeal to a lot of FIRST time beatmakers who have no experience with any workflow.

Airyck wrote:Thats where this whole market is heading.... we leave the hardware for the power of computers only to come full circle and make the computer part of the controller and we have a hardware device again...

YES AND I CAN'T WAIT!

Airyck wrote:1.6 is going to be the best release we've ever seen.... mark my words lol:popcorn:

well it has to be at this point. this is the playground fight with all the spectating kids yelling "You gone let him hit you like that?! What you gonna do?"