Roland MV-8800 - Gear Chat 05

Oh yeah. That was a great gear chat. I gotta watch some more of Mike's tutorial videos. Even that demo he did showed me something I didn't know it could do. Definitely glad I picked up that 2nd one. Didn't know you could roll patterns too. Nice demo of realtime timestretch and per track quantize/shuffle and quick split of instrument to separate tracks.

Insane it has all this and from a decade + ago.

I saw this when Mike posted this on IG.
Very informative about the MV.

Another thread about the MV series.

*looks at eBay*

Oh nice they're now $1500

richie wrote:Another thread about the MV series.

*looks at eBay*

Oh nice they're now $1500

Time to sell one of the two 8800's I got.

SHOUT OUT to Mike Acosta! He is one of the main reasons I now have a MV8800!!

I watched a couple of his vids on YouTube after having a VERY FRUSTRATING experience with the MPC Ren. I sold the Ren, bought an MV8800 and life is good!

chino wrote:I sold the Ren, bought an MV8800 and life is good!

JUKE 179r wrote:

richie wrote:Another thread about the MV series.

*looks at eBay*

Oh nice they're now $1500

Time to sell one of the two 8800's I got.

Word! They were going for $500 a month ago.

Suckers who sold them at that price

It's a bit weird that the price is so high for a used MV8800 or MV8000, when it is it the same sequencer in the Roland Fantom S and X. YOu can get the Fantom X 61 keys version for $500. Actually more like the Fantom X with the audio track expansion.
I own the Fantom S88. Before I bought the MPC4000 I used to use the Fantom S key pad like an MPC. IN fact on the Roland CLan forum they had a whole thread about this. I think it may have been in the Fantom S manual as well.
Funny to hear Wormhelmet be amazed by the functionality from a decade ago. That particular function was in the Fantom S and it is older than the MV. In any case, I find lots of older gear that has functions that are left out of newer gear. When you ask the salesmen and gear specialists at the stores they tell you that people just don't use the functions so they leave them out. So older gear that once had great chord arranging no longer does because people making music often don't know keys and chords.

I know you guys are enjoying the MV. I remember when they came out and the bone heads kept trying to compare it to the MPC. "The swing is....", "The MPC does this , why does the MV....". It seems to always take about 5 years before people wise up. It's like people have to see someone else who is deemed cool use the item then it gets the badge of approval.
Rock and Roll hair bands in the late 80's were using MPCs and samplers. The hip hop guys were not the intended target. When I found out that some of my favorite bands were on stage lipsyncing and that samplers were the real engine, I had to laugh. The hiphop guys used to freak samplers live and then an EMCEE would rhyme a real freestyle. Then of course the rest is history.
Pete Rock and CL Smooth are on tour right now and I sold my akai z4 to his technical manager. So when you see that show (which has a live band) they also have an under track going. Lots of people are doing this nowadays. To help keep time.

on a tangent...sorry... time to do like Oran Juice Jones suggests " I chilled"

Peace
MV lovers.

Ian

But that's just it - for years, no one wanted those machines and now this whole new forum poster and #hashtag Roland MV movement is on some bullsh*t.

This is the exact same herb sh*t that happened back when the S900/S950's were easily got for $100-200 and MPC 3000's you could get for $400-600.

I like Akai gear and I really like Roland gear.
I scoff at MPC fan boys who think nothing is better that MPCs.

Ian Canefire wrote:It's a bit weird that the price is so high for a used MV8800 or MV8000, when it is it the same sequencer in the Roland Fantom S and X. YOu can get the Fantom X 61 keys version for $500. Actually more like the Fantom X with the audio track expansion.
I own the Fantom S88. Before I bought the MPC4000 I used to use the Fantom S key pad like an MPC. IN fact on the Roland CLan forum they had a whole thread about this. I think it may have been in the Fantom S manual as well.
Funny to hear Wormhelmet be amazed by the functionality from a decade ago. That particular function was in the Fantom S and it is older than the MV. In any case, I find lots of older gear that has functions that are left out of newer gear. When you ask the salesmen and gear specialists at the stores they tell you that people just don't use the functions so they leave them out. So older gear that once had great chord arranging no longer does because people making music often don't know keys and chords.

I know you guys are enjoying the MV. I remember when they came out and the bone heads kept trying to compare it to the MPC. "The swing is....", "The MPC does this , why does the MV....". It seems to always take about 5 years before people wise up. It's like people have to see someone else who is deemed cool use the item then it gets the badge of approval.
Rock and Roll hair bands in the late 80's were using MPCs and samplers. The hip hop guys were not the intended target. When I found out that some of my favorite bands were on stage lipsyncing and that samplers were the real engine, I had to laugh. The hiphop guys used to freak samplers live and then an EMCEE would rhyme a real freestyle. Then of course the rest is history.
Pete Rock and CL Smooth are on tour right now and I sold my akai z4 to his technical manager. So when you see that show (which has a live band) they also have an under track going. Lots of people are doing this nowadays. To help keep time.

on a tangent...sorry... time to do like Oran Juice Jones suggests " I chilled"

Peace
MV lovers.

Ian

My last sampler I used to make music exclusively on with my guitars sampled and synths sequenced was the Yamaha SU700. In 2003, I sold the last of my synth and sampler hardware as I went ITB production in 2000 and progressed the first 4 years trying DAWs and then settled on Ableton for ten years straight. It amazes me because the features in other gear everyone wants out of an mpc, maschine, etc all are right there in the MV. I did some research before switching but after three years still finding out cool tricks with it.

All hardware now and no pc and so much gear I can only spend part of my time learning the MV. Starting sequencing extarnal gear with it and making beats though in the first few hours of owning it. Not that difficult for basics.

What I find interesting is that Roland hired a third party developer to create the MV8000. I never knew that and perhaps why no one could make a beat on it. That's what I first noticed, that it didn't have that Roland workflow. I mean they did a tremendous upgrade to get it at 8800, but it was a new OS to learn and pretty steep. Anyway, its pretty easy to get started once you familiarize yourself. Most times I don't look at the screen now I'm so 2nd nature with it, I just groove on.

Imagine, all Roland has to do is reissue the MV but update it with solid state harddrive, 4GB RAM, touchscreen, new GUI, compact small size, bluetooth and wifi, and option to use as a controller/interface. That would cause an earthquake.

Ill-Green wrote:... Imagine, all Roland has to do is reissue the MV but update it with solid state harddrive, 4GB RAM, touchscreen, new GUI, compact small size, bluetooth and wifi, and option to use as a controller/interface. That would cause an earthquake.

Yeah that would be dope but the **** keep putting out new MIDI saxophones. Tf?