Direct Recording - LIVE Performance

apricotandpearjam wrote:I think the advantage is that you can do it while the sequence is running, over a beat so you can keep all the creative juices flowing. . .

You can do exactly that in Record Mode as well, if I'm not mistaken.

Mike Feedback wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:But can't you do the same thing in regular Record Mode as well? I don't see the advantage of Direct Recording.

in record mode your sample can't automatically be placed in the sequence so that it gets played in sync with your beat after sampling.

if you have a 100 bar sequence, you can play the sequence and then start direct recording in the middle of bar 71. when you're done, you can assign that sound to a pad, and it can add an event to trigger that pad to the exact step you began recording in the middle of bar 71.

you can't do that in record mode, you'd have to guess to figure out what step to trigger the sample to get it in sync with the beat. direct record would save you a ton of time, and it's exact.

True, and that's about the only thing special about it. Kinda brave to think up a whole new name for that, if you ask me

_Stilo_ wrote:True, and that's about the only thing special about it.

the only thing special about it? of course it is. that's the whole reason WHY they added it. so that you can record your sample and have it placed in sync with the beat.

_Stilo_ wrote:Kinda brave to think up a whole new name for that, if you ask me

they added the ability to record samples directly to the track, so they called it direct record. why would they have to be brave to call it that? i don't get your point.

Mike Feedback wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:True, and that's about the only thing special about it.

the only thing special about it? of course it is. that's the whole reason WHY they added it. so that you can record your sample and have it placed in sync with the beat.

_Stilo_ wrote:Kinda brave to think up a whole new name for that, if you ask me

they added the ability to record samples directly to the track, so they called it direct record. why would they have to be brave to call it that? i don't get your point.

I think it's a marketing gimmick. With a little more thought they could have made a banging feature out of it, but they didn't. Just adding the possibility to place your sample automatically, well, ok, if that's what it is...fine for those who need it.

_Stilo_ wrote:I think it's a marketing gimmick. With a little more thought they could have made a banging feature out of it, but they didn't. Just adding the possibility to place your sample automatically, well, ok, if that's what it is...fine for those who need it.

it's not a marketing gimmick.. people needed it. it's one of the main reasons i switched from the 2000xl to the 2500.

just out of curiousity, how would you suggest they improve this feature to make it "banging"? the only way i can see is to have the sequence continue playing once you've stopped direct recording... that would be nice.

i think thats what everyone means by making that feature perfect. . . if you dont have to stop the sequence to stop the direct recording. . .

Surely this is possible? Is it not something in the programming of the OS that would do this?

Thanks, Ben

Mike Feedback wrote:just out of curiousity, how would you suggest they improve this feature to make it "banging"? the only way i can see is to have the sequence continue playing once you've stopped direct recording... that would be nice.

That, and adding a possibility to let the sample loop automatically after recording it. Ever used an RC-20, then you know what I'm talking about.

_Stilo_ wrote:That, and adding a possibility to let the sample loop automatically after recording it. Ever used an RC-20, then you know what I'm talking about.

the mpc isn't really a loop machine, it's a phrase sampler and sequencer. it's not intrinsic into the architecture of mpc's to automatically loop samples that have just been recorded, instead you have to assign samples to a pad within a program, and then add a note to the sequence to trigger that pad. i'm not sure they'd ever implement that ability since it's against what the mpc was designed to do. and i'm also not entirely sure they'd be able to add the ability to begin playback a sample before you've finished recording it.

look at the audio tracks of the JJ OS. they go against how the mpc was designed in that the audio file assigned to the audio tracks isn't assigned to a pad within a program. because of that, audio tracks can't be used in song mode. they also can't loop around from the end to the beginning of a sequence, meaning they have to start at the the first step of a sequence and can't go longer than the last step.

you have to remember that mpc's were initially designed as sampling drum machines. if you want something to record live loops and play them back automatically, then you'd have to get a unit that was designed to do so (no, i've never used an RC-20).

http://www.gearjunkies.com/product_info ... s_id=13408

You know if the auto bpm detect works proper then you can MIDI it up and have your records control the tempo of the MPC. uh uh uh uh ahhhhhhhhhhh

Haven't read the entire thread but sounds like the original poster needs Ableton Live do do exactly what he wants.
Look up Kid Beyond on youtube. He uses Ableton for live shows recording and looping his beat boxing on the go.
Might not be your cup of tea but it should give you an idea of what you can do

dablunt wrote:http://www.gearjunkies.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_20&products_id=13408

That's another nice piece of equipment that never made it to the stores as far as I know. The company made a great appearance with their first line of products (Electrix Repeater, Filter Factory etc. are rare and expensive to get 2nd hand), but they slacked in completing their new products. They vanished now for good I think.

But there are similar products out there blunt, that have almost the same features. I mean, if you wanna drool over something

What other products are there out there that are similar or do the same things? I cant seem to find any. . .

Boss RC-50 / RC-20
Electro Harmonix 2880