Loving the MPC One...Addictive! Could easily ditch the X

Danoc wrote:Yo E, did you do your music on your X or in a DAW or both? Where did you do the mix at? Sounds dam good!

Thank you man!

I'm one of those people that had an X and downgraded to a Live - just because I wanted to be more portable, which I ended up not being anyway. LOL

Every single one of those songs I started on the Live, and after laying about 20% of it (mostly drums and basic melodic ideas) I exported stems to Logic Pro X, where I finish everything else. I mixed the album myself in my studio. It's funny man, I appreciate you (and others have said) that it sounds good, but you know how it is... I hear things in the songs that make me cringe like "wtf were you thinking???. LOL

I used to send my stuff out to mixing engineers, but realized I spend more time bickering about the sound I wanted. And then I realized that I could get the same results as them. Not pretentious enough to think I'm better at it than they are, so wouldn't say I can get BETTER results than them, but when it came to my music, I could get the same results. Which for me, meant they get cut, and that $ stays with me for promotion and marketing. In the end that's been a smart approach for me, because it doesn't matter how good a song sounds if no one hears it. haha.

But I'm using the MPC less and less these days. Just can't produce a song in it. Just make some basic backing tracks and do real work in a DAW. That's true for MY music - others may have a different experience. My music is a mixture of samples and live instrumentation. And I mix with UAD and Waves 90%.

I feel you. I use to hate mixing, now I love it. I couldn't produce in the Live either, I was going to get a CME Xkey to go with the live but if I am doing just drums, why keep it? That's my approach, so now I'm in either DAW producing. Plus I have the Mixer in Reason, I freakin love that thing!

I have a few engineers I roll with, but when YOU hear what YOU hear, the only way you can get what YOU want is do it YOURSELF. But others like my way so it's all good.

You going from the X down to the Live, is almost where the OP is. It just depends on what you need and how it compliments your flow.

But dam good job bro!

Eyalc wrote:

Danoc wrote:Yo E, did you do your music on your X or in a DAW or both? Where did you do the mix at? Sounds dam good!

Thank you man!

I'm one of those people that had an X and downgraded to a Live - just because I wanted to be more portable, which I ended up not being anyway. LOL

Every single one of those songs I started on the Live, and after laying about 20% of it (mostly drums and basic melodic ideas) I exported stems to Logic Pro X, where I finish everything else. I mixed the album myself in my studio. It's funny man, I appreciate you (and others have said) that it sounds good, but you know how it is... I hear things in the songs that make me cringe like "wtf were you thinking???. LOL

I used to send my stuff out to mixing engineers, but realized I spend more time bickering about the sound I wanted. And then I realized that I could get the same results as them. Not pretentious enough to think I'm better at it than they are, so wouldn't say I can get BETTER results than them, but when it came to my music, I could get the same results. Which for me, meant they get cut, and that $ stays with me for promotion and marketing. In the end that's been a smart approach for me, because it doesn't matter how good a song sounds if no one hears it. haha.

But I'm using the MPC less and less these days. Just can't produce a song in it. Just make some basic backing tracks and do real work in a DAW. That's true for MY music - others may have a different experience. My music is a mixture of samples and live instrumentation. And I mix with UAD and Waves 90%.

I'm going to straight up say it. The MPCX is a workflow killer. It's slow. the tiny bills and whistles that the software has just don't line up with it.

Which means you have work harder and do work around after work around. That's why I prefer the MPC one. It's best of both worlds at the moment. has hard not squishy physical buttons and the firmware is optimized to work with it.

MPCx has a lot of broken futures. Like you have more physical buttons but you have to use the F1 function to switch and share very important functions. For example if you have the f1 function button on You can't save or browse samples. You cannot select the sampler or a few other things like XY effects until you turn it off.

Oh you say just use the touch screen then. Because of the placement of the screen and how big it is plus it's plastic so it doesn't respond good like on the the live/mpc1. your arms will get tired and youll need to rest them from doing all that menu diving gymnastics.

With the recent 2.7.1- 2.8 update the physical F1 time correct button placement was removed off of the MPCX. now you have to use the qlinks or menu dive to access the time correct function.

You have more physical midi outs/ins on the MPCx but software synchronization is trash for external MIDI.

DID YOU guys know the MPC one and live is using a slightly different firmware from the MPCx. Obviously it has to because it has more q Links and ins/outs. (Audio/midi).

I also did a test in which I found that the audio interfaces are different which causes the MPCX to have a slightly different sound from the MPC live and mpc1.

Here's another crazy thing I found. By using the internal hard drive on the MPCx it causes a little bit more latency and unreliability of the MIDI timing.

So

You don't need qlinks because you can do the same thing when you menu dive. Plus automation is broken so it's pointless to use those knobs.

Once they add the mixer from the akai force the q links will really be useless.

now here is a crazy feature that goes really good with MPC one and MPC live but doesn't cooperate with MpCX. That's the fast action menu when you hold and select a pad to correspond with gui screen menu. Reminds me of the akai mpc 2500 mode button. But It's terribly implemented on the MPCX. The menu button is top left above the pads.

You have to be real good at twister to select those different functions Akai.


One would say hey but you have physical buttons. But they're all over the place. you have to really stretch your arms out to reach all the buttons. Again a few games of twister and then You can be a pro MPCX operator. Buttons all over the device and in random places that do not make any sense at all.

I've been using my akai MPCX consumer edition since it first came out 2017. Nothing professional about this unit.

Consumerism .

Eyalc wrote:Man, if you're nice like that, you're nice like that. If you're wack like that, you're wack like that.

Extra buttons, more ram, more CV outs, more direct outs, a bigger screen, more plugins, etc, aren't gonna change that. Have the X and want to downgrade? Do it. Have the One and want to upgrade? Do it. Wack or nice will follow you to either one. No sense in debating which is best. I want to know what you DO with either one.

So choose which ever one makes you happy. What matters isn't which one is better. What matters is if you're nice or wack. Focus people! You guys are making pages of threads debating number of buttons and stuff. LOL

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True Indeed!

But I was addressing the Differences based upon another user inquiry.

I can make Heat on my Android alone. OP was about Gettin rid of the X for the One. For me...I'll probably grab the One, one day for Collector Item Purchases

We're all focusing on the OP. Debates are Healthy in my opinion

Dammm you went in. I heard that.

Quickstrike2.0 wrote:I'm going to straight up say it. The MPCX is a workflow killer. It's slow. the tiny bills and whistles that the software has just don't line up with it.

Which means you have work harder and do work around after work around. That's why I prefer the MPC one. It's best of both worlds at the moment. has hard not squishy physical buttons and the firmware is optimized to work with it.

MPCx has a lot of broken futures. Like you have more physical buttons but you have to use the F1 function to switch and share very important functions. For example if you have the f1 function button on You can't save or browse samples. You cannot select the sampler or a few other things like XY effects until you turn it off.

Oh you say just use the touch screen then. Because of the placement of the screen and how big it is plus it's plastic so it doesn't respond good like on the the live/mpc1. your arms will get tired and youll need to rest them from doing all that menu diving gymnastics.

With the recent 2.7.1- 2.8 update the physical F1 time correct button placement was removed off of the MPCX. now you have to use the qlinks or menu dive to access the time correct function.

You have more physical midi outs/ins on the MPCx but software synchronization is trash for external MIDI.

DID YOU guys know the MPC one and live is using a slightly different firmware from the MPCx. Obviously it has to because it has more q Links and ins/outs. (Audio/midi).

I also did a test in which I found that the audio interfaces are different which causes the MPCX to have a slightly different sound from the MPC live and mpc1.

Here's another crazy thing I found. By using the internal hard drive on the MPCx it causes a little bit more latency and unreliability of the MIDI timing.

So

You don't need qlinks because you can do the same thing when you menu dive. Plus automation is broken so it's pointless to use those knobs.

Once they add the mixer from the akai force the q links will really be useless.

now here is a crazy feature that goes really good with MPC one and MPC live but doesn't cooperate with MpCX. That's the fast action menu when you hold and select a pad to correspond with gui screen menu. Reminds me of the akai mpc 2500 mode button. But It's terribly implemented on the MPCX. The menu button is top left above the pads.

You have to be real good at twister to select those different functions Akai.


One would say hey but you have physical buttons. But they're all over the place. you have to really stretch your arms out to reach all the buttons. Again a few games of twister and then You can be a pro MPCX operator. Buttons all over the device and in random places that do not make any sense at all.

I've been using my akai MPCX consumer edition since it first came out 2017. Nothing professional about this unit.

Consumerism .

40Beatz wrote:1. Save to HDD/SSD
2. See the Card when hooked up to the computer
3. Less Menu Diving
4. More Midi Outs
5. Bigger Screen for my Old Eyes
6. Sturdier?
7. More Buttons lol
8. More Inputs
9. More Dedicated CV outs
10. More USB Connectors\
11. USB 3.0

1. (USB HUB and external ssd drive.)
2. (Not in standalone.)
3. (It's about the same.)
4. (USB MIDI killed that.)
5. (Aren't the fonts are the same size. )
6. N/A
7. I Agree
8. I Agree
9. I Agree
10. (USB HUB)
11. I Agree


It's a good list, but I find that most of them can be easily worked around. This is what I was saying about devaluing the platform. They played low end and the low end can do 95% of what the high end can do.

You're Correct.

But those things need to be "Worked Around". I thought you wanted the differences.

I agree. We can take the One and make it perform like an X. This is the thing tho. The X came out kinda 1st. The Price tag is a lil extreme(as of today). But it set the standard for the Cheaper Newer Models.

Akai will have to Beef up the X in order to justify droppin Two Bones on a new machine.

40Beatz wrote::lol:
You're Correct.

But those things need to be "Worked Around". I thought you wanted the differences.

I agree. We can take the One and make it perform like an X. This is the thing tho. The X came out kinda 1st. The Price tag is a lil extreme(as of today). But it set the standard for the Cheaper Newer Models.

Akai will have to Beef up the X in order to justify droppin Two Bones on a new machine.

+100. I agree, they should really beef up the next X. I didn't buy these MPCs when they were in the Beta stage. I waited and let other pay to test. The ONE's functions are 95% there, so they started disabling standard functions in hopes to push people to upgrade.

"Eyalc wrote:
Man, if you're nice like that, you're nice like that. If you're wack like that, you're wack like that.

Extra buttons, more ram, more CV outs, more direct outs, a bigger screen, more plugins, etc, aren't gonna change that. Have the X and want to downgrade? Do it. Have the One and want to upgrade? Do it. Wack or nice will follow you to either one. No sense in debating which is best. I want to know what you DO with either one.

So choose which ever one makes you happy. What matters isn't which one is better. What matters is if you're nice or wack. Focus people! You guys are making pages of threads debating number of buttons and stuff. LOL
"

Ok we need a joint where you can drop the mic after something like this!

That Statement pertains to those who Choose Software Over Hardware (vice versa) As Well!

If the MPC one had the Qlinks on the left of the screen instead of right and I was able to change the screen’s angle I would sell my X and get a One.

I had a live and traded it with a to guy in here with some cash for his X. I love the X don’t get me wrong but it’s a little bit on the BIG side.