Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

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Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By flieger Thu May 27, 2021 1:44 pm
I'm new to the MPC One. As I explore the plug-in synths, i notice that they all have tons of delay and reverb enabled by default, which annoying to me. Rather than quickly auditioning the sounds, i have to go in and edit the delay & reverb parameters.
Is this normal? Is there a way to globally configure the programs to have less delay & reverb?

Thanks!

Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By ace_of_dub Thu May 27, 2021 5:03 pm
Is this normal? Is there a way to globally configure the programs to have less delay & reverb?


No, since delay/reverb settings are saved with the synth.

The good news is you can create your own presets from scratch.

Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By DokBrown Thu May 27, 2021 7:16 pm
I find the defaults for most synths are heavy reverb/delay.
The crazy fun is in the LFO  oscillator shaping & envelopes
Time to turn some knobs ;-)

Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By DokBrown Thu May 27, 2021 9:55 pm
JohnClodVanDarn wrote:Nobody buys a synth for the presets.




agreed. I actually picked my synths based on how much I like the experience.

Some synths sound great but aren’t fun to tweak b/c too many menus, etc. this is why I never use the built-in MPC synths. I may start using that 2.9 drum synth 1 day but I’m running an older OS for now . . . . . . .
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Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By Lampdog Thu May 27, 2021 11:15 pm
flieger wrote:i notice that they all have tons of delay and reverb enabled by default,


That is most gear, just to make it sound good right out the box.
Create your own templates.

Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By Beatless Sun May 30, 2021 3:59 pm
The plugin synths suck!
Look for AKWF single cycle waveforms and use them in a keygroup with the really cool filters you have got there. That´s a better experience than disabling the fx from that awful synthpatches. :nod:
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Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By EnochLight Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:18 pm
JohnClodVanDarn wrote:Nobody buys a synth for the presets.


DokBrown wrote:agreed.


:hmmm:

* raises hand *

Actually yes - plenty of people do. I won't buy a synth unless it comes with a decent amount of factory presets, and I am able to save presets. I don't have time to sound design - that's why I pay for people to do it for me. I'm a preset tweaker, as are a lot of people.

Beatless wrote:The plugin synths suck!


:WTF: :lol:

NearTao wrote:For something that was added later in the lifecycle of the product, at no charge, I find the synths quite competent. Sure they don't cover every need, but you're not trying very hard if you cannot get any mileage out of them at all.


This. If you're not able to get any mileage out of the included plugin synths, then you're doing something wrong. I do agree they all seem to be too buried in reverb and delay. Hype on Force is the same.
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Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By Lampdog Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:31 pm
EnochLight wrote:I won't buy a synth unless it comes with a decent amount of factory presets, and I am able to save presets.


Same. I tweak presets, I create my own AND I want the ability to save/reload patches. It's part of the reasons I went with 37 instead of Grandmother or Matriarch.
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Re: Plug-in synths have a lot of delay & reverb

By Bezo Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:34 pm
I haven't used them in a while, but from what I remember, I agree with presets being drowned in verb & delay. I hate that devs do that, but they ALL seem to do it.

I'm also a preset tweaker and the 1st thing I do is turn off verbs & delays.
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