MPC X, MPC Live, MPC One & MPC Key 61 Forum: Support and discussion for the MPC X, MPC Live, MPC Live II, MPC One & MPC Key 61; Akai's current generation of standalone MPCs.
By jpeg Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:28 pm
dustyslices wrote:guy was a scam lol - the only info he had was my screenshot of mpc-xl switch statement, a couple of .dtb files and one+ pdf from chinese website.
as far as I remember he've done two videos on that, he deleted my comments under the first one (and ultimately took the video down I think) and then he posted the second video with "his revelations". As for "mini" he's clueless - he thought he was talking about MPC mini but in reality he was talking about polyend which back then was almost two years deep in development and was announced roughly a month (maybe two) after his video.


time will tell; but tbf fair dude was not mentioning polyend, he was very speific about mpc live mini, so not sure why u assuming he was speaking in reference to the polyend.

but you obviously have cynical mindset but; I will wait until th end of the year before labelling dude a scammer.
By jpeg Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:34 pm
J.O.BEATS wrote:

Ive posted multiple times here the issues Ive been having. Love my OG Live but the newer units don't work for me. I can keep fixing and buying 2nd hand Lives or I can find something else that has better longevity.The MPC mini has nothing to do with it. I dont want a stripped down version of these new mps. Why would I want less features? Im assuming FANU is talking about future updates.

And yes, I agree, there aren't many other viable alternatives especially for my workflow. Ive always been a hardware guy but the best alternative is a my macbook and a controller. I really dont like Ableton. Been digging into Serato lately which is promising but want a dedicated controller


u said u like the OG live but dislike the newer units but the Live 2 is the same as the OD Live except for the speaker so why would u dislike the newer machines based on that small difference?

or are us saying the new lives have more hardware and software faults?

some people want a simplified streamlined workflow as they find the current mpc too bloated; the live mini is intend to compete with sp404 and be a simpler way of working but still have the mpc elements.

if ur hardware guy u might wanna look into the s2400; great workflow and amazing sound
By J.O.BEATS Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:17 am
jpeg wrote:
J.O.BEATS wrote:

Ive posted multiple times here the issues Ive been having. Love my OG Live but the newer units don't work for me. I can keep fixing and buying 2nd hand Lives or I can find something else that has better longevity.The MPC mini has nothing to do with it. I dont want a stripped down version of these new mps. Why would I want less features? Im assuming FANU is talking about future updates.

And yes, I agree, there aren't many other viable alternatives especially for my workflow. Ive always been a hardware guy but the best alternative is a my macbook and a controller. I really dont like Ableton. Been digging into Serato lately which is promising but want a dedicated controller


u said u like the OG live but dislike the newer units but the Live 2 is the same as the OD Live except for the speaker so why would u dislike the newer machines based on that small difference?

or are us saying the new lives have more hardware and software faults?

some people want a simplified streamlined workflow as they find the current mpc too bloated; the live mini is intend to compete with sp404 and be a simpler way of working but still have the mpc elements.

if ur hardware guy u might wanna look into the s2400; great workflow and amazing sound


I travel for work so I live half my life on the road. I need something I can easily throw in my bag. The live 2 is a bit too big and I despise the speaker :lol:

But yes the constant crashing and bugs in controller mode is a huge problem. I use to only use it for exporting stems so wasn’t effected by the bugs. But now I’m mixing and mastering more so need additional resources.

And don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to change. I hate the idea of going away from what has worked so long for me. The One+ experience I had was super disheartening so it’s made me a bit jaded.
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By Ill-Green Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:04 am
jpeg wrote:
dustyslices wrote:guy was a scam lol - the only info he had was my screenshot of mpc-xl switch statement, a couple of .dtb files and one+ pdf from chinese website.
as far as I remember he've done two videos on that, he deleted my comments under the first one (and ultimately took the video down I think) and then he posted the second video with "his revelations". As for "mini" he's clueless - he thought he was talking about MPC mini but in reality he was talking about polyend which back then was almost two years deep in development and was announced roughly a month (maybe two) after his video.


time will tell; but tbf fair dude was not mentioning polyend, he was very speific about mpc live mini, so not sure why u assuming he was speaking in reference to the polyend.

but you obviously have cynical mindset but; I will wait until th end of the year before labelling dude a scammer.


True, plus he said it was in the same form of the Live only smaller and has a white shell, possibly black pads.

I'm interested to see how it will play out. May not have MPC 3.0 but it could be a Nintendo type ish where you buy the Mini and pick out what catridges you want your MPC to be, like an MPC60 then take it out and put an MPC2000XL cart in there. Be the bees sleeves.
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By MPC-Tutor Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:29 am
jpeg wrote:time will tell; but tbf fair dude was not mentioning polyend, he was very speific about mpc live mini,


Specific? The guy couldn't be less specific if he tried. :lol: Forgetting that fact that he cannot/will not produce any evidence to back up his claims, he ultimately admits there is absolutely nothing to suggest this was actually an actual MPC. It wasn't Akai branded, Akai claim to know nothing about it and it wasn't actually called an MPC Live Mini, that appears to be something he's just decided to call it in his video, clearly for clicks and giggles.

Until this guy puts up a screenshot or post a URL of this, I'm tempted to ban all mentions of 'MPC Live Mini'. :nod:
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By dustyslices Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:50 am
jpeg wrote:
time will tell; but tbf fair dude was not mentioning polyend, he was very speific about mpc live mini, so not sure why u assuming he was speaking in reference to the polyend.

but you obviously have cynical mindset but; I will wait until th end of the year before labelling dude a scammer.


Polyend mini is exactly what he described with his words it have exact the attributes he said and on top of that the timeframe matches perfectly.
anyways, how’s that cynical ?
you clearly don’t want to acklowledge a simple fact that the guy was rehashing bits and pieces that everyone knew already.
Let me reiterate what I said before:
It’s not a „d**k size comparison” contest but I’am the man behind Force6 / MPC Keys / MPC XL info „leaks”, that guy (as many other attention seekers) just rehashed my findings and blew them out of proportions . When I corrected his ill informed infos he was passing on YT, my comments „magically” dissapeared and he made another video (the one with „mini”) where yet again he vaguely rehashed MPC „leaks” and added infamous mini, which wasn’t supported by anything - no fcc fillings, no screenshots, no drawings, and not even a single clue or mention of a new device in the actual software code base.
When he was confronted by many, about source of his infos he couldn’t produce any evidence due to lack of skills to retreive such info from existing firmware or in case of mini - non existing evidence. This made him turnd back and hide behing „insider info” curtain. If that’s not how it was, how does it looks like for you then ?
anyway… enough time has passed already to make him reliable source - even if akai will release mini tomorrow, it doesn’t mean that they didn’t came up with it after his „leak” and that he knew about it at the time.
For me it’s just opportunistic guesswork that’s not supported with anything but his word.

EDIT:
Speaking of leaks - device that akai is working on currently is not geared towards MPC users and will have more than 16 pads :wink:
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By Fanu Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:52 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:Specific? The guy couldn't be less specific if he tried. :lol: Forgetting that fact that he cannot/will not produce any evidence to back up his claims, he ultimately admits there is absolutely nothing to suggest this was actually an actual MPC.


Some muthafukkas will do absolutely anything for attention and views!
Today's world...



jpeg wrote:if ur hardware guy u might wanna look into the s2400; great workflow and amazing sound


I already would have bought it if it could:
1) ping-pong loop a sample
2) do at least some automation
3) ideally more than 8 slice points per sound

I actually bought my MPC 60 II from Brad that runs Isla...seems like a real nice guy.
By glide Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:11 am
Hello Fanu

Lets try to get cheeky ..Without breaking NDA 8) :wink:

Does the audio have the same charghtarestics as the current range?


Just say good things are coming if> No the sound different


Cant comment if> Yes they sound the same ..



:smoker:
By jpeg Tue Sep 19, 2023 9:39 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:
If you read Padpusher's comments on that 'MPC Live Mini' video he did, you'll see that whatever it is he may or may not have seen, it's almost certainly not something sanctioned by Akai, nor likely an actual MPC.

1. He claims to have spotted this on a web site, not Akai's.
2. It is not branded 'Akai', but to a different company
3. He reached out to akai about it and they said they didn't know anything about it.
4. He reached out to the third party and heard nothing back
5. He won't release the name of the site because 'Just for fun'.

It seems the name 'MPC Live Mini' is just something he decided to call it. How did we get to the stage where people are wondering if the 'MPC Live Mini' might be a solution to people's issues? If it does exist it's probably some random Chinese generic thing on Alibaba that just looks a bit like an MPC.

Ultimately he is continuing to refuse to give up the URL or post any pictures, because he admits he likes the drama. Whatever it may be, based on what he's said, it's clearly not an actual MPC, and ultimately there is zero proof that it even exists.


You made some false claims about this padpusher dude and what was said in his orginal video.

He said he was in direct communication with akai and a 3rd part collaborator; so not sure how u concluded that the product was not akai sanctioned.

I understand ur angry because he has not provided any proof to support his claims.
I agreeat this point its all just hear say; but you appear to be making up things that he did not say in the video, in order to discredit his statements.

I am taking him at his word; if nothing comes out by december; then yes I will absolutley aknowledge it was all a click bait scam.

but to address the 5 points that u listed:

1. He made no mention of seeing the alleged mpc live mini on a website.
2. He made no mention of it being branded to another company.
3. He said he was in contact with Akai and a 3rd party dev; he was NOT told the product was false.
4. He said he was in direct contact with Akai & 3rd party dev re the product.
5. He made no mention of a site in the video; nor did he say this was for fun.

So If ur basing your the 5 points off what was said in the orginal video; then ur points are false, seems like u want to attack the dude out of anger because he has not provided evidence for his statements.

Not sure how u have concluded that the mpc live mini name was something that he made up; as there was nothing he said in the video that would lead to that conclusion.

Regarding a URL or pictures; why would u expect him to provide that info? anyone who has insider knowledge would be under an NDA; so its an unrealistic request to make.

I get u want proof but no need to lie on dude; time will tell and if he is lying it will be exposed in a few short months.
By jpeg Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:06 am
dustyslices wrote:
Polyend mini is exactly what he described with his words it have exact the attributes he said and on top of that the timeframe matches perfectly.
anyways, how’s that cynical ?
you clearly don’t want to acklowledge a simple fact that the guy was rehashing bits and pieces that everyone knew already.
Let me reiterate what I said before:

When I corrected his ill informed infos he was passing on YT, my comments „magically” dissapeared and he made another video (the one with „mini”) where yet again he vaguely rehashed MPC „leaks” and added infamous mini, which wasn’t supported by anything - no fcc fillings, no screenshots, no drawings, and not even a single clue or mention of a new device in the actual software code base.
When he was confronted by many, about source of his infos he couldn’t produce any evidence due to lack of skills to retreive such info from existing firmware or in case of mini - non existing evidence. This made him turnd back and hide behing „insider info” curtain. If that’s not how it was, how does it looks like for you then ?
anyway… enough time has passed already to make him reliable source - even if akai will release mini tomorrow, it doesn’t mean that they didn’t came up with it after his „leak” and that he knew about it at the time.
For me it’s just opportunistic guesswork that’s not supported with anything but his word.


ur def reaching; cos he said the live mini would be in two colours and white and black, and the entire video was about Akia so not sure how u have ropped Polyend into it.

Of course I know he was rehashing with regard to the mpc one+ and MPC XL; but the live mini stuff was new info.

There would be no new device in the software code base; as he claims the live mini is not running the standard MPC software.

If he is under an NDA then it seems unreasonable to expect him to provide FCC filings and pictures on the live mini.

Again time will tell; I will wait till end of year before dismissing dude as a scam.
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By MPC-Tutor Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:21 am
Oh dear. As per the first sentence:

"If you read Padpusher's comments on that 'MPC Live Mini' video he did..."

As I said, in the comments he's elaborated on what was said in the video, so maybe you should read through all his comments before accusing me of lying.

I think from what he has written most people can see the guy is full of it, and a massive troll.

As for him being tied to an NDA, seriously, do you think he would have been allowed to mention all that stuff in the original video if he was under an NDA? You are not allowed to mention ANYTHING about forthcoming products, no teasers, no spoilers.

jpeg wrote:
MPC-Tutor wrote:
If you read Padpusher's comments on that 'MPC Live Mini' video he did, you'll see that whatever it is he may or may not have seen, it's almost certainly not something sanctioned by Akai, nor likely an actual MPC.

1. He claims to have spotted this on a web site, not Akai's.
2. It is not branded 'Akai', but to a different company
3. He reached out to akai about it and they said they didn't know anything about it.
4. He reached out to the third party and heard nothing back
5. He won't release the name of the site because 'Just for fun'.

It seems the name 'MPC Live Mini' is just something he decided to call it. How did we get to the stage where people are wondering if the 'MPC Live Mini' might be a solution to people's issues? If it does exist it's probably some random Chinese generic thing on Alibaba that just looks a bit like an MPC.

Ultimately he is continuing to refuse to give up the URL or post any pictures, because he admits he likes the drama. Whatever it may be, based on what he's said, it's clearly not an actual MPC, and ultimately there is zero proof that it even exists.


You made some false claims about this padpusher dude and what was said in his orginal video.

He said he was in direct communication with akai and a 3rd part collaborator; so not sure how u concluded that the product was not akai sanctioned.

I understand ur angry because he has not provided any proof to support his claims.
I agreeat this point its all just hear say; but you appear to be making up things that he did not say in the video, in order to discredit his statements.

I am taking him at his word; if nothing comes out by december; then yes I will absolutley aknowledge it was all a click bait scam.

but to address the 5 points that u listed:

1. He made no mention of seeing the alleged mpc live mini on a website.
2. He made no mention of it being branded to another company.
3. He said he was in contact with Akai and a 3rd party dev; he was NOT told the product was false.
4. He said he was in direct contact with Akai & 3rd party dev re the product.
5. He made no mention of a site in the video; nor did he say this was for fun.

So If ur basing your the 5 points off what was said in the orginal video; then ur points are false, seems like u want to attack the dude out of anger because he has not provided evidence for his statements.

Not sure how u have concluded that the mpc live mini name was something that he made up; as there was nothing he said in the video that would lead to that conclusion.

Regarding a URL or pictures; why would u expect him to provide that info? anyone who has insider knowledge would be under an NDA; so its an unrealistic request to make.

I get u want proof but no need to lie on dude; time will tell and if he is lying it will be exposed in a few short months.
By jpeg Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:23 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:
jpeg wrote:time will tell; but tbf fair dude was not mentioning polyend, he was very speific about mpc live mini,


Specific? The guy couldn't be less specific if he tried. :lol: Forgetting that fact that he cannot/will not produce any evidence to back up his claims, he ultimately admits there is absolutely nothing to suggest this was actually an actual MPC. It wasn't Akai branded, Akai claim to know nothing about it and it wasn't actually called an MPC Live Mini, that appears to be something he's just decided to call it in his video, clearly for clicks and giggles.

Until this guy puts up a screenshot or post a URL of this, I'm tempted to ban all mentions of 'MPC Live Mini'. :nod:


He was very specific; but of course had no evidence to support what he was saying, for example he said:

1. the device will come to two colour white and black
2. the device wont run standard mpc software
3. the devide is being devloped with akai partnership with a 3rd party
4. the dvice will be the same form factor as the current live but much smaller

The points above are example of very specific things he said; but u claim he was not being specific because of the lack of evidence to support the specific 4 points he made which are listed above.

He did not admit that the device wont be an MPC; your making that claim not him.

Your saying it was not Akai branded; he did not make that claim; and your saying AKai know nothing about it be he says they are developing it.
You are claiming that he made up the name Live min; but he is not making that claim, so its your word against his at this point.

He says he is in direct contact with Akai and this 3rd party who are developing this product; and that its due this year so we shall see.

but of course its ur forum; so u can ban topics if u so wish
By jpeg Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:29 am
[quote="MPC-Tutor"]Oh dear. As per the first sentence:

"If you read Padpusher's comments on that 'MPC Live Mini' video he did..."

As I said, in the comments he's elaborated on what was said in the video, so maybe you should read through all his comments before accusing me of lying.

I think from what he has written most people can see the guy is full of it, and a massive troll.

As for him being tied to an NDA, seriously, do you think he would have been allowed to mention all that stuff in the original video if he was under an NDA? You are not allowed to mention ANYTHING about forthcoming products, no teasers, no spoilers.

[quote="jpeg"][quote="MPC-Tutor"]

opps ok I have not read the comment section I was basing my response to ur post off what was said in the video; so my apoligies.

and your point regarding NDAs make sense; so perhaps he just has friends who are under NDAs and he gets wind of info from them, and is attempting to not sour those relationships by releasing too much info.

If this is indeed a hoax that video has less then 10k views so what has he actually gained by going into these elobrate lies
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By MPC-Tutor Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:37 am
jpeg wrote:He says he is in direct contact with Akai and this 3rd party who are developing this product; and that its due this year so we shall see.


In the comments he clarifies that 'being in contact' just means that after finding this random device on the internet (that looks like a mini MPC), he emailed Akai and this third party to find out more. He confirms that the third party didn't respond. He says Akai told him they didn't know anything about it.

He is clearly not in some kind of relationship with these people. Could it be that he knows people in the know? IMO no, there is no indication of that from those comments. Seems that this is either a case of him coming across a random MPC-like device on the web somewhere (in which case why not release some evidence, it's simply not normal to hold this stuff back), or more likely, a pack of lies created by someone who loves to troll.

To be fair, he's done a great trolling job, hats off to him, although he should have sustained it if he wanted to build more subscribers.