Upcoming: MPC 2.0.5

BeatWilson wrote:Atleast Maschine is stable. Im all for MPC workflow, pads and standalone sampling but if ya can't do normal everyday **** without a work around all the **** time then I'm over it. NI is a software company so yes they are better with software. It is just how it is. Hardware wise i barely consider it hardware but overall it implements into other software better and has "everyday features" more or less.

Why do you say its in Beta?!
I could really care less as I can still make music but I'm curious as why you say that.

I think everyone wants a MPC to do what they should but they just don't at the quality we want or with the features we or I want. Either or I will keep my eye open for updates in the future. It is what it is.

mashine is not stable at all freezes when loading i have a large list of bought expansion and still have ton of problems..

stale bread wrote:

BeatWilson wrote:So portamento is icing on the cake?! so it automation editing? really???
Along with a handful of everyday features. If you have a lot of hardware gear and need a brain i could see the X being dope but as far as a computer stand point.... nah....

I can drop 400$ on a computer/labtop that can do what the MPC X and Live do along with more features.

I love MPC's But DO NOT TRUST AKAI WITH SOFTWARE.

Makes me worried about the Rane 72 Mixer. **** looks good but an x/y effect touch screen ripped from the MPC on it etc etc has me little worried. They say the same Rane engineers will be on it but still. Im not super stoked on inmusic. Ill stick with my DJM S9 and my Maschine.

If they actually update the MPC's, make them worth there money and start showing more effort into constant updates then i would purchase on in the future. Just really for what it is... I could get a lot more done with other stuff and less work arounds.

you had me until you said you'd stick with maschine, that thing has been in beta for almost a decade it doesn't sound like you're applying the same rule to both.

no not beta still figuring out when it fixed then they take out what works plz leave Mashine off this forum..OMG been a MPC owner since 94 and i have not seen a company like NI do what they do to thre cusomers.. as for routing made a thread on it for years one of the developers said it could not be done took another 2 years they final put it back since v1.8 because of crap they put out for jam

kaydigi wrote:

stale bread wrote:it's been in beta since day one since it dropped, they didn't call it a beta like akai does but I don't fault akai for their honesty.... from adding multicore support to removing it, to maschine's complete software rewrite that was supposed to solve issues that it didn't all the way to natives announcement and apology that they neglected it for 2 years basically and then came out with the jamm it has never worked like it's supposed to work, there are bugs still there from the beginning, and from 1.8.... in my mind that's a beta.
as far as akai goes, I'm thankful that it's actually the small things that are troubling people, I think the small issues will get taken care of and the mpc live will end up being a small miracle machine. There are some larger feature request that I don't have much faith in them implementing like better quality time stretch (that actually truly is great quality)... but the small stuff like the copy/paste stuff etc... I think they'll clean it up. I'm sitting here looking at a beatmachine with a usb hard drive, thumb drive, and sd card connected to it, and I could put an ssd inside if I wanted... it's already a future classic imo.... even if it goes bust and everybody puts theirs up on Craig's or ebay, it's already capable enough that everybody else will scoop them up for 6-900 and make great music with them. There's really never been anything like this even with the caveats...
I think allot of people are really sleeping on this machine's capabilities because of how spread out the features are, but the combination of what these features combined can do is going to make itself very well known as time goes by.

You are right, the only reason they started speaking publicly about maschine again was to release the Jam.

On the filpside no way Akai 2.0 should have shipped with that crappy browser in software and even worse in hardware.

Saw the MK3 leaked, looks nice

okay another over priced controller that relys on your audio card yea okay buy it for another $1100 and tell me you love it with the dated software that keeps add crap you dont need.. They have great products but nothing is Komplete! get it lol

Certified Beatz wrote:

kaydigi wrote:Saw the MK3 leaked, looks nice

okay another over priced controller that relys on your audio card yea okay buy it for another $1100 and tell me you love it with the dated software that keeps add **** you dont need.. They have great products but nothing is Komplete! get it lol

Except that its 599, has a built-in audio card, bigger pads, etc etc

Luckily for us this whole topic isn't derailing again...

Its funny. People are too touchy about there gear. If someone from the NI bomb then everyone freaks out, lol!

Both great units. I just wish the MPC was what I or "WE" wanted it to be. Not a clip launching tool but a tool to make beats with all the bells and whistles were used to and more.. Should of left the clip launching to ableton.. If they got all the god damn everyday features in it and I would been Sold on it. But at this point i would rather a controller that works and does it all than a crippled standalone unit that still needs a computer for some normal features.

It is now time to play the waiting game..

BeatWilson wrote:Its funny. People are too touchy about there gear. If someone from the NI bomb then everyone freaks out, lol!

It's always when a new unit is announced that people get extra defensive, ha.

I remember when Live and X were on the horizon, people with old MPCs got crazy defending their units and dissing the new ones, saying they don't need modern devices to cope and especially not computers – probably writing those messages on modern computers while browsing stuff on their touchscreen phones.

I was on facebook yesterday reading a topic from a bunch of Maschine users who didn't have a good word to say about NI or Maschine - buggy, permanently beta, implementing features no one wants and ignoring the stuff they are begging for, etc. Many of them were considering a Live/X. All sounds very familiar, the grass is always greener.

MPC-Tutor wrote:I was on facebook yesterday reading a topic from a bunch of Maschine users who didn't have a good word to say about NI or Maschine - buggy, permanently beta, implementing features no one wants and ignoring the stuff they are begging for, etc. Many of them were considering a Live/X. All sounds very familiar, the grass is always greener.

Always is. You just gotta find the devices that suit your workflow the most and whose shortcomings annoy you the least.

I love both Maschine and MPC Live. I get the benefits of both. I have no real need to choose one over another.

NI Definitely have been working on other things rather than some simple features people have been asking for but apparently 3.0 will be a makeover. Who knows once again. I could go either way with either company. Standalone is nice if the price and features are good. Im just gonna sit and wait for them to add the features i want before purchasing. I love Drum Machines, Samplers, Controllers and DJ Equipment it is how it is. A good ol healthy competition will only make things better and force companies like NI to step up the "Hardware" game and pushes Akai a bit to make some updates

BeatWilson wrote:I love both Maschine and MPC Live. I get the benefits of both. I have no real need to choose one over another.

NI Definitely have been working on other things rather than some simple features people have been asking for but apparently 3.0 will be a makeover. Who knows once again. I could go either way with either company. Standalone is nice if the price and features are good. Im just gonna sit and wait for them to add the features i want before purchasing. I love Drum Machines, Samplers, Controllers and DJ Equipment it is how it is. A good ol healthy competition will only make things better and force companies like NI to step up the "Hardware" game and pushes Akai a bit to make some updates

Yes, innovation is good. Whenever a company comes up with an idea, all other companies will be implementing that in the next iterations of their products.

From the new Sound on Sound Review of the Mpc X. Guess his review unit had the update.

"The MPC Live review in April covered the core new features available in the MPC2.0 and stand‐alone systems. Let’s have a quick recap and see where things have moved on since then. The biggest new feature was Audio Tracks,
a new type of track where you can import, record and edit audio in a familiar DAW‐like way. I got even more use of these with the X simply because I could plug a bass or guitar straight into the front panel. Hardware‐based editing of audio tracks is handled very nicely, and is the same whether working stand‐alone or controlling MPC software. The latest release has tightened up touchscreen editing even more, with indicator icons showing where in
a clip to drag to move or trim. You can now edit multiple selected clips simultaneously, and can select and cut out parts of a clip.
Another big change in 2.0 was the addition of warping features in the audio engine, which was especially useful in powering the new Clip Launch program type. By popular request this has now been extended to drum programs in both stand‐alone and software modes. Warping can be enabled on a pad‐by‐pad basis. You
can pitch and stretch pads manually, but more importantly now you can tempo lock them
so they’ll warp automatically to match the master tempo. This is really useful for pads that
contain longer samples, slices or breaks. These controls are all part of the simplified Program Edit Samples tab that also now offers in‐line sample editing of all pads layers.
Version 2.0 saw the long‐awaited redesign of the MPC software/plug‐in and the adoption of the stylish look of the touch user interface. The biggest software addition was a completely new mixer, which shows what the Akai design team can do when they don’t have to worry about disrupting legacy workflows. This modular mixer can show channels for every object type in an MPC project: programs (instruments, kits), individual pads, the MIDI tracks that play them and other external gear, Audio Tracks, Submixes, and Masters. Since the Live review, an update has introduced
a detachable mixer window which takes this concept to the next level, literally. A two‐tier arrangement puts the mix channels for the individual pad/sample elements of the selected track on their own row. The coolest feature though is the Events view filter that only shows the channels that are actually doing something in the Sequence.
Other incoming features that we previewed include the Wi‐Fi Ableton Link and Bluetooth connectivity and the arrival of the Event List editing to the Touch interface."

Check the review for screen shots of the new software

back2future wrote:From the new Sound on Sound Review of the Mpc X. Guess his review unit had the update.

"The MPC Live review in April covered the core new features available in the MPC2.0 and stand‐alone systems. Let’s have a quick recap and see where things have moved on since then. The biggest new feature was Audio Tracks,
a new type of track where you can import, record and edit audio in a familiar DAW‐like way. I got even more use of these with the X simply because I could plug a bass or guitar straight into the front panel. Hardware‐based editing of audio tracks is handled very nicely, and is the same whether working stand‐alone or controlling MPC software. The latest release has tightened up touchscreen editing even more, with indicator icons showing where in
a clip to drag to move or trim. You can now edit multiple selected clips simultaneously, and can select and cut out parts of a clip.
Another big change in 2.0 was the addition of warping features in the audio engine, which was especially useful in powering the new Clip Launch program type. By popular request this has now been extended to drum programs in both stand‐alone and software modes. Warping can be enabled on a pad‐by‐pad basis. You
can pitch and stretch pads manually, but more importantly now you can tempo lock them
so they’ll warp automatically to match the master tempo. This is really useful for pads that
contain longer samples, slices or breaks. These controls are all part of the simplified Program Edit Samples tab that also now offers in‐line sample editing of all pads layers.
Version 2.0 saw the long‐awaited redesign of the MPC software/plug‐in and the adoption of the stylish look of the touch user interface. The biggest software addition was a completely new mixer, which shows what the Akai design team can do when they don’t have to worry about disrupting legacy workflows. This modular mixer can show channels for every object type in an MPC project: programs (instruments, kits), individual pads, the MIDI tracks that play them and other external gear, Audio Tracks, Submixes, and Masters. Since the Live review, an update has introduced
a detachable mixer window which takes this concept to the next level, literally. A two‐tier arrangement puts the mix channels for the individual pad/sample elements of the selected track on their own row. The coolest feature though is the Events view filter that only shows the channels that are actually doing something in the Sequence.
Other incoming features that we previewed include the Wi‐Fi Ableton Link and Bluetooth connectivity and the arrival of the Event List editing to the Touch interface."

Check the review for screen shots of the new software

It's finally happening, now I can stop bitching.

I was expecting copy and paste in grid edit.. Maybe the next update then..

It cost 1100 as a controller? Wow l get standalone and cintroller for 959$

Certified Beatz wrote:
okay another over priced controller that relys on your audio card yea okay buy it for another $1100 and tell me you love it with the dated software that keeps add **** you dont need.. They have great products but nothing is Komplete! get it lol