MPC LIVE - DISCONTINUED in Germany`s Major Music Stores

Danoc wrote:Well we shall see.

Hey I thought Akai said on Facebook, that they weren't discontinuing the MPC LIVE. Corona Light, maybe eating crow for the 30th time.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Danoc wrote: Now you know the young people's attention spand is a short fuse. They ain't trying to adapt , Akai might want to adapt. This ain't 1990.

Well new user better learn. Because, the more features they add to the machine, the more convoluted it becomes. Which makes it harder to use. Truly, Akai Pro needs to streamline the OS.

Exactly. Either learn it or GTFO of the way for the people that were able to grasp it and use it. Its like this whole "core math" bullshit they're teaching kids now. They're not even learning how to add properly because adults dont want to bother with making these privileged kids actually work and learn. They just want to sweep it under the rug and get them to the finish line so they can get their participation trophy quicker. Kids are growing up expecting everything to be handed to them finished and ready to go. Just look at how many cant function without their phone attached to their hip and google and twitter and facebook to answer everything for them without having to actually think?

Sorry Im almost 45, dont want the "freedom" a DAW gives me anymore. I just want my music getting done without playing someone else's games of upgrading/compatibility/outdated hardware/etc.. Gimme my little box that's just ready to do what it was supposed to. Just because a handful of prefer one way of working on THEIR favorite device/computer/etc, doesn't mean Akai needs to force everyone else that's accustomed to, and perfectly happy with, the MPC's decades old workflow to conform to some new way. I dont see much difference anyways, but then again Im not anal about needing to micro edit every little detail of a song. I come from the days when you learned how to play stuff and you played it right and nailed it in one take. You shouldn't have to dedicate half of your studio time to 'cleaning up' your work. Thats the beauty of the MPC.

CharlesRandolph wrote:Hey I thought Akai said on Facebook, that they weren't discontinuing the MPC LIVE. Corona Light, maybe eating crow for the 30th time.

They said that? I wouldn't know l don't keep up with Akai like that.

Mpc eclipse coming soon

QuickStrike wrote:Mpc eclipse coming soon

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:@ Surfhai

Well said.
I have same experience as you, I have your age, I made the same training and I came to Mpc Live two years ago and it was my first Mpc.
The first months I had it, I just wanted to throw it away from the window for exactly the same reasons you said.
But then the magic happened as I started to get inside the workflow.
It just gave me the chance to have fun when composing, something I forgot working with computer for 10 years before Mpc.
I think this is why we all still use an Mpc even if it's convoluted and complicated. Once you get the sense of how it works, it's fast and effective, you don't lose yourself with the 1000 possibilities of a daw and its plugins which actually are chains of effects and sequenced effects.
With Mpc you work with the basics, even the effects are just basic, but all sounds great and lets you stay clean or dirty as you wish.
I immediately put the insert filters on qlinks and never thought this was a problem, I just thought it was the way to do it.
Something I learnt with Mpc is that if something doesn't work as you are used to, it will work in some other way, you just have to find that way.
But yes, I also think that the OS is still underdeveloped, and I also think it has a tremendous potential that is not exploited yet.
For example, LFO is too basic, Warp is very lame, the order of tracks cannot be changed easily (it's 2020!) and also effects slot cannot be swapped (it's 2020!).
I never thought of Mpc as a daw replacer, I always used it as a groovebox or advanced sampler, but it actually took me away from computer.
And I honestly think it still needs a companion, I use an Mc101 and I am upgrading to mc707, exactly because, as you said, the synth side is not excellent but it does its job anyway.
That's the point. All inside Mpc does its job in a way or another and that's also the fun of it.

How did it take you away from a computer, when the MPC is computer? P.S. It's easier to read your post, if you don't press enter after every period.

Mpc is mpc, technically a tablet with a premapped controller and its own workflow.
Computer is a platform where you can put any daw you like.
You cannot put any daw you like on Mpc standalone.
So Mpc standalone is Mpc standalone and computer is computer.
Also mc is a computer, or better a controller built around a chip.
I press enter at every phrase for the reason you said, to let you read it better.
Do you teach writing on school?

Danoc wrote:

CharlesRandolph wrote:Hey I thought Akai said on Facebook, that they weren't discontinuing the MPC LIVE. Corona Light, maybe eating crow for the 30th time.

They said that? I wouldn't know l don't keep up with Akai like that.

But you know with Akai, you gotta be careful how you ask a question - gotta be specific, else they’ll answer exactly what you ask with a generic (and often misleading) answer. They were answering the “has it been discontinued?” question. But a better question, given the context should have been “is it still in production?”. Two different questions, two different answers.

Something can not be in production, and not be discontinued. But something discontinued, is by definition, no longer in production. Based on their answer, everyone that knows Akai’s pattern, knew that it was going to be discontinued not long after that. LOL

@ Eyalc

Exactly.
People like to discuss about details but it was clear since on Thomann it didn't even appear as out of stock, and that was december, no virus panic yet.
It was clear even before someone find the mk2 writing on the codes of Mpc.
May is a very possible date also.
The only question is: will it have 3.0? Will it run the 4gb motherboard version of the current 2gb motherboard?
Will it also replace X in the future?
That are good points of discussion.

Frisbi wrote:Mpc is mpc, technically a tablet with a premapped controller and its own workflow.

A tablet is a computer and since you said, the MPC is a tablet, that makes it a computer.

Frisbi wrote:Computer is a platform where you can put any daw you like.

Computer: a programmable usually electronic device that can store, retrieve, and process data. Basically a computer can be anything that computes.

Frisbi wrote:You cannot put any daw you like on Mpc standalone.

Sure you can, you just have to know, how to do it.

Frisbi wrote:I press enter at every phrase for the reason you said, to let you read it better.
Do you teach writing on school?

I suppose, the format does works for poetry. The only issue is you're not writing poetry. I just find
it hard to grasp your main points and the organizations of thoughts are all over the place. Grouping your ideas together, helps others read and understand your ideas.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:Mpc is mpc, technically a tablet with a premapped controller and its own workflow.

A tablet is a computer and since you said, the MPC is a tablet, that makes it a computer.

Frisbi wrote:Computer is a platform where you can put any daw you like.

Computer: a programmable usually electronic device that can store, retrieve, and process data. Basically a computer can be anything that computes.

Frisbi wrote:You cannot put any daw you like on Mpc standalone.

Sure you can, you just have to know, how to do it.

Frisbi wrote:I press enter at every phrase for the reason you said, to let you read it better.
Do you teach writing on school?

I suppose, the format does works for poetry. The only issue is you're not writing poetry. I just find
it hard to grasp your main points and the organizations of thoughts are all over the place. Grouping your ideas together, helps others read and understand your ideas.

As always, discussions about nothing.
Mpc is a computer. Ok? Now you are happy?
I switched from a computer called Apple to one called Mpc and I prefer the last one.
Happy?
How old are you?
12?

PS: I write exactly as I want to write and you are free to write as you want to write.
But maybe a discussion about the topic of the thread would be much more interesting then a discussion about my way of writing.

Have a nice afternoon.

Frisbi wrote:As always, discussions about nothing. Mpc is a computer. Ok? Now you are happy? I switched from a computer called Apple to one called Mpc and I prefer the last one. Happy? How old are you? 12?

PS: I write exactly as I want to write and you are free to write as you want to write. But maybe a discussion about the topic of the thread would be much more interesting then a discussion about my way of writing.

Have a nice afternoon.

It wasn't meant as an insult. Why not write in a way, that will help communicate your idea to everyone? Now as far as the MPC LIVE being discontinued or out of production. I don't understand how people didn't see it coming, after they released the AKAI Force in 2019. It's a pretty standard release protocol with Akai Pro.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:As always, discussions about nothing. Mpc is a computer. Ok? Now you are happy? I switched from a computer called Apple to one called Mpc and I prefer the last one. Happy? How old are you? 12?

PS: I write exactly as I want to write and you are free to write as you want to write. But maybe a discussion about the topic of the thread would be much more interesting then a discussion about my way of writing.

Have a nice afternoon.

It wasn't meant as an insult. Why not write in a way, that will help communicate your idea to everyone? Now as far as the MPC LIVE being discontinued or out of production. I don't understand how people didn't see it coming, after they released the AKAI Force in 2019. It's a pretty standard release protocol with Akai Pro.

Man, what I write is clear.
Use your brain and that's it and stop insulting and then say you are not insulting.
And move along, let's talk about the topic.
Mpc Live was not appearing on Thomann in december anymore, not even as out of stock.
So that could mean just one thing but you kept on debating about this.
There is an mk2 on the way, as everyone understood using their brain.
The discussion is just: how will this mk2 be? An upgrade of Mpc line? More Ram? A new firmware?
Force has nothing to do with Mpc, it shares many features of Mpc but it's another product.
My idea is an Mpc One for beginners, an Mpc two for professionals so the prices of the line drop.
Before it was 2000 euro Mpc X and 1200 euro for Live.
Now it might be 700 for One and around 1000/1200 for Two.
I may be right or I may be wrong but at least I try to discuss about it rather then passing my time discussing about the way other people write.
Is it clear enough?

Frisbi wrote:Man, what I write is clear. Use your brain and that's it and stop insulting and then say you are not insulting.
And move along, let's talk about the topic. Mpc Live was not appearing on Thomann in december anymore, not even as out of stock. So that could mean just one thing but you kept on debating about this.

There is an mk2 on the way, as everyone understood using their brain. The discussion is just: how will this mk2 be? An upgrade of Mpc line? More Ram? A new firmware? Force has nothing to do with Mpc, it shares many features of Mpc but it's another product.My idea is an Mpc One for beginners, an Mpc two for professionals so the prices of the line drop.

Before it was 2000 euro Mpc X and 1200 euro for Live. Now it might be 700 for One and around 1000/1200 for Two. I may be right or I may be wrong but at least I try to discuss about it rather then passing my time discussing about the way other people write. Is it clear enough?

The MPC ONE is for beginners. Really? Perhaps, you mean, entry level. Which in this case, refers to the price, because it still requires the same skill and knowledge to use it. (Just like using the MPC Live and X) Remember that the MPC LIVE used to be entry level priced MPC, prior to the MPC One.

What ever the next MPC will be, chances are it will share the same format as the MPC One and Akai Force. There's really no need to continue with the dated, design of the MPC Touch (2014/2015). Other clues of the MPC LIVE demise, was release of a Variant Gold Color version. That was done as a last ditch effort, to promote, the MPC LIVE as well as the MPC X.

Frisbi wrote:The only question is: will it have 3.0? Will it run the 4gb motherboard version of the current 2gb motherboard?
Will it also replace X in the future?
That are good points of discussion.

I don’t think it will replace the X. If anything the X will be discontinued, but if so, I don’t see a replacement for it.

3.0 - would hope so. 4gb motherboard? I would hope so as well. Though I honestly don’t know what they would add to it that would make me (just talking me here) want to buy it. My gripes are all with the software and the basic things it doesn’t do. I know others want more power so they can add more fx etc, and that’s cool too - more power can never be a bad thing in this world. I want 4000 sample manipulation power, not VST and FX power. But not knocking that request / desire - it’d be cool to see more RAM, FX and VSTi. I’d rather see that than more Splice and Ableton control stuff. But the things I want (4000 stuff), doesn’t need anymore RAM. Just coding - so I don’t think a new model would entice me if it didn’t have some 4000-like stuff in it.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:Man, what I write is clear. Use your brain and that's it and stop insulting and then say you are not insulting.
And move along, let's talk about the topic. Mpc Live was not appearing on Thomann in december anymore, not even as out of stock. So that could mean just one thing but you kept on debating about this.

There is an mk2 on the way, as everyone understood using their brain. The discussion is just: how will this mk2 be? An upgrade of Mpc line? More Ram? A new firmware? Force has nothing to do with Mpc, it shares many features of Mpc but it's another product.My idea is an Mpc One for beginners, an Mpc two for professionals so the prices of the line drop.

Before it was 2000 euro Mpc X and 1200 euro for Live. Now it might be 700 for One and around 1000/1200 for Two. I may be right or I may be wrong but at least I try to discuss about it rather then passing my time discussing about the way other people write. Is it clear enough?

The MPC ONE is for beginners. Really? Perhaps, you mean, entry level. Which in this case, refers to the price, because it still requires the same skill and knowledge to use it. (Just like using the MPC Live and X) Remember that the MPC LIVE used to be entry level priced MPC, prior to the MPC One.

What ever the next MPC will be, chances are it will share the same format as the MPC One and Akai Force. There's really no need to continue with the dated, design of the MPC Touch (2014/2015).

For beginners I meant for the people who wants to enter Mpc line and never used it before. As it was with Live before, you are right.
I also think it will have similar hardware of One because users are happy to have more buttons to jump on the pages as it is with One.
Maybe 6/8 outputs?
Maybe 8 qlinks?
But my main question is about the motherboard.
I remember someone pointed that Akai bought a whole stock of motherboards and that these motherboards have two versions, one with 2gb of Ram, the other with 4gb.
Is this true or just a rumor?
And the other question is if they will put hd/ssd slot as in current Mpc or not as in One.