It's amazing how many bugs the MPC software has

Eyalc wrote:It's unfortunate because Akai's culture used to be "excellence". Now it's "mediocrity". But what I've learned over the past 5 years is that Akai's culture is simply a reflection of the culture of its users. Its why Akai can release a 2.8.1 full of issues, not say anything about it, nor address those issues, and users are STILL saying good things are coming... LOL. WHAT?????

As a general rule of life, I demand and expect excellence when I'm trading my time and money for something. And I'm 100% unapologetic about that. But I don't say much on here because I realize that people like me that expect excellence are FAR outnumbered by the number of people that accept mediocrity. I really wish people would understand the difference between hating and expecting excellence. The MPC community (not everyone, but the majority) accept mediocrity far too much.

To the OP, yes, the amount of bugs is unfortunate. Wish the overwhelming reaction was "fix this nonsense or I'm moving onto something else" instead of "good things are coming".

100% It's easier on the EGO to settle, then it is to admit to the flaw and move on.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Eyalc wrote:It's unfortunate because Akai's culture used to be "excellence". Now it's "mediocrity". But what I've learned over the past 5 years is that Akai's culture is simply a reflection of the culture of its users. Its why Akai can release a 2.8.1 full of issues, not say anything about it, nor address those issues, and users are STILL saying good things are coming... LOL. WHAT?????

As a general rule of life, I demand and expect excellence when I'm trading my time and money for something. And I'm 100% unapologetic about that. But I don't say much on here because I realize that people like me that expect excellence are FAR outnumbered by the number of people that accept mediocrity. I really wish people would understand the difference between hating and expecting excellence. The MPC community (not everyone, but the majority) accept mediocrity far too much.

To the OP, yes, the amount of bugs is unfortunate. Wish the overwhelming reaction was "fix this nonsense or I'm moving onto something else" instead of "good things are coming".

100% It's easier on the EGO to settle, then it is to admit to the flaw and move on.

Totally agree here, look at Reason. It's been the same almost since Reason 7, they've just been adding shit on top of it. Good shit, but still just adding shit on top. No changes to the Midi editor and a number of other midi issues that users have complained about. You'd like to think you can throw support behind a company, but seems like they aren't listening to the users a lot of the time. Which when you think about it, is really the business model that Apple has established and others have followed.

I dont know bout you guys, but AKAI has never been Customer Service Savvy(To me). They use to put out a Product. Maybe Update it a couple times.....Then Boom....Another Unit!

We had to WorkAround the "Bugs" and Limitations....Which made us more creative.

40Beatz wrote:I dont know bout you guys, but AKAI has never been Customer Service Savvy(To me). They use to put out a Product. Maybe Update it a couple times.....Then Boom....Another Unit!

We had to WorkAround the "Bugs" and Limitations....Which made us more creative.

Limitations and Bugs are not the same. Example, the windows MPC drivers are unstable and needs to be corrected. Using these machines in controller mode is hit and miss.

I agree about Akai never really having been customer service savvy.

But the key distinction is "limitation". If there is a hardware limitation like RAM for example, I agree that limitation made people more resourceful. But not "creative". But in this case we're not talking about limitations. We're talking about bugs and features that don't work the way they're supposed to. That IMO isn't a limitation. That's an issue.

But I've never really "got" the whole "limitations makes us more creative" anyway. Because the other compelling perspective is... what if you didn't have those limitations (limitations meaning a true limitation or bug or whatever)? What if not having those limitations made you 500% more creative? But because there are limitations, you'll never reach that peak of creativity? Because there are limitations, you'll only reach a fraction of your true creative potential. That perspective is never really part of the discussion, but I think it should be.

Can't do anything about hardware limitations, but the bugs and issues they can. And those bugs and issues could be stunting people's creativity - which I tend to believe it does. They just aren't willing to admit it that potential.

The MPC Software is now over 8 years old and has definitely got a lot more buggy as of 2.8, be it crashes, messed up features or new oddities. Finding myself saving after every edit as I don't trust the stability; that's no way to be working.

MPC-Tutor wrote:The MPC Software is now over 8 years old and has definitely got a lot more buggy as of 2.8, be it crashes, messed up features or new oddities. Finding myself saving after every edit as I don't trust the stability; that's no way to be working.

Luckily I have that habit from working in the Motion Graphics industry. Software crashes like every 3 minutes for the most silly thing. So I be hitting save every other second sometimes. When I don't that's usually when I lose 40 minutes of creativity

Yea....Im not educated on the Software Bugs in Controller Mode. Im more of a Standalone kinda Guy.

I was addressing the Limitations AND the Bugs lol

On this forum alone, we complained about the Limitations. Akai Addressed alot of them one by one, which in turn created MORE Bugs.

So you're correct...they are different....but the Latter was created by addressing the Other.

Only way to get on top of the Bugs, It will either have to be the Suppression of NEW Features(along with bug fixes), OR create New Hardware/Firmware.

Moral of the MY Story....If we keep asking for New Features, We'll have New Unintended Bugs.

That's what I expect, and it's not 95' this is the year 2020, excellence should be held on Akai to put out excellent gear! My Live worked didn't give me any problems, but I watched where Akai is headed and it doesn't do me any good. The hopeful Akai people might outweigh us but the truth is the direct pattern that Akai has presented outweighs them! They can keep fooling themselves that good things are coming but I am glad I MOVED ON! Akai keeps putting out upgrade after upgrade and bugs after bugs keep coming that's not a sign of excellence that's a pattern that says they are messing up big time.

Couldn't rock the software like I wanted with Plugins and what not, it didn't work. When I am doing music, and my equipment I choose has to have power and be robust! The limits they set was wack! Dudes are having problems in standalone also. smh
People have the right to accept Akai's crap, and I have the right not to accept it also without backlash as if I am not telling the truth, Akai's culture is not good right now, and I don't see it getting better. Akai taking people's money, yes they will but they won't be getting mines in these MPC's. It's like saying I see good things coming if we keep Trump for another 4 years. It's like HOW?

Ok, had to do it, E, I have new drum kit coming before the year is out, my promotion right here and I have another larger one coming also. Just had to put that out there LOL hahahaaaa

Eyalc wrote:It's unfortunate because Akai's culture used to be "excellence". Now it's "mediocrity". But what I've learned over the past 5 years is that Akai's culture is simply a reflection of the culture of its users. Its why Akai can release a 2.8.1 full of issues, not say anything about it, nor address those issues, and users are STILL saying good things are coming... LOL. WHAT?????

As a general rule of life, I demand and expect excellence when I'm trading my time and money for something. And I'm 100% unapologetic about that. But I don't say much on here because I realize that people like me that expect excellence are FAR outnumbered by the number of people that accept mediocrity. I really wish people would understand the difference between hating and expecting excellence. The MPC community (not everyone, but the majority) accept mediocrity far too much.

To the OP, yes, the amount of bugs is unfortunate. Wish the overwhelming reaction was "fix this nonsense or I'm moving onto something else" instead of "good things are coming".

I never ever, never never ever understood that crap. It's the mind that brings up that creativity, not limitation. It was just a pretty saying, it's like the corporation dumb ass saying "MAKE MORE WITH LESS". Like how? WTF If you have less than, you can't get greater than, some dork in a conference room made that crap up.

This is why Akai is in the wrong direction. People ask for PDC, but ummmmmm.... They haven't fixed the bugs! It's not going to do no good if you have more ram, PDC, etc if the bugs exist.

Of course people are going to be stagnated because they are constantly here complaining about bugs, they can't do nothing. And you know when something ain't right we have a dam fit LOL

Eyalc wrote:
But I've never really "got" the whole "limitations makes us more creative" anyway. Because the other compelling perspective is... what if you didn't have those limitations (limitations meaning a true limitation or bug or whatever)? What if not having those limitations made you 500% more creative? But because there are limitations, you'll never reach that peak of creativity? Because there are limitations, you'll only reach a fraction of your true creative potential. That perspective is never really part of the discussion, but I think it should be.

@40Beatz
Moral of the MY Story....If we keep asking for New Features, We'll have New Unintended Bugs.[/quote]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh hell nah man, the more features we get there should be improvements, not more bugs!
The moral of that story is Akai needs to get their crap together!

Danoc wrote:Ok, had to do it, E, I have new drum kit coming before the year is out, my promotion right here and I have another larger one coming also. Just had to put that out there LOL hahahaaaa

Haha - ain't nothing wrong with a little self promotion. LOL

CharlesRandolph wrote:

40Beatz wrote:We had to WorkAround the "Bugs" and Limitations....Which made us more creative.

Limitations and Bugs are not the same. Example, the windows MPC drivers are unstable and needs to be corrected. Using these machines in controller mode is hit and miss.

The MPC drivers are unstable, and I choose to use something else to be creative

NearTao wrote:
The MPC drivers are unstable, and I choose to use something else to be creative

Akai is dropping faulty updates. It's an obvious pattern.

My other DAWs have no problems using third party plugins but the 2.0 software just wouldn't work with 3rd party plugins, and l wasnt the only one.

Akai on the real need to upgrade their team or get with a bonified company and make a DAW. They should start from the ground up!

Eyalc wrote:Haha - ain't nothing wrong with a little self promotion. LOL

I knew you would get a kick outta that