Mpc Plugins

jpeg wrote:not everyone is interested in doing alot of sound design; so would be good to get some presets that is more genere specific; eg a deep house preset pack or a neo soul preset pack, etc

i get that presets are a starting point but the onse that come as standard are not even in the right ball park; hence the request for prests that are closer to the mark.

B-Wise wrote:

jpeg wrote:not everyone is interested in doing alot of sound design; so would be good to get some presets that is more genere specific; eg a deep house preset pack or a neo soul preset pack, etc

i get that presets are a starting point but the onse that come as standard are not even in the right ball park; hence the request for prests that are closer to the mark.

That's my point. Even if they made presets in the "right ball park" not everyone is a ball player. You would still have people complaining. So once again, it's not their job to make what "you" like, that's your job. It's their job to provide the synths tools for you to make what you want & if you're not interested in that part, then it's up to you to find/pay someone to make the type of presets that you like. Or find a way to make sound designing more interesting & do it yourself.

Also, let's say they did make the best presets in the world & everybody loved them, you then would have people that would hate that everyone is using the same sounds over & over to the point nobody would want to use them

jpeg wrote:or some reputable 3rd party designers could get in on the act such msx guys who have already done some good expansion packs for mpc

B-Wise wrote:Also, let's say they did make the best presets in the world & everybody loved them, you then would have people that would hate that everyone is using the same sounds over & over to the point nobody would want to use them

EnochLight wrote:But in the very least, they're a great starting point.

Agree.

This is what is supplied.



The rest is on you. Handle it.

EnochLight wrote:I mean, comparing apples to apples - the original Juno 60/106 had mostly shit "presets". Like 90% of them were what most would consider unusable. But it was the remaining 10% - especially those classic pads, strings, and bass, that set it apart. I don't subscribe to the idea that presets aren't meant to be used - they absolutely are if you find yourself inspired by them. But in the very least, they're a great starting point.

B-Wise wrote:

jpeg wrote:or some reputable 3rd party designers could get in on the act such msx guys who have already done some good expansion packs for mpc

Unless you do mind your music lacking originality by using sounds that will be use to death MSX guy won't solve the my point below. But if you don't mind then go for it

B-Wise wrote:Also, let's say they did make the best presets in the world & everybody loved them, you then would have people that would hate that everyone is using the same sounds over & over to the point nobody would want to use them

jpeg wrote:just ungin a preset does not define if the music is original; it how u flip the sound in the track.
it dont matter if its a preset or a patch designed urself that wont define if ur tack is orginal, and typically the sounds u design are similar to other sounds u have heard before so its not that orginal.

also all music take insspiration from other songs that came before so no track is truly original; presets is all about helping u cook something up quickly so u can focus on songwriting instead of sound design

B-Wise wrote:

jpeg wrote:just ungin a preset does not define if the music is original; it how u flip the sound in the track.
it dont matter if its a preset or a patch designed urself that wont define if ur tack is orginal, and typically the sounds u design are similar to other sounds u have heard before so its not that orginal.

also all music take insspiration from other songs that came before so no track is truly original; presets is all about helping u cook something up quickly so u can focus on songwriting instead of sound design

How you flip a patch is a part of sound design which you said you're not interested in & that that you want "better presets". If you typically use similar sounds of course it won't be original that's why I said you're gonna have to make your own...nevermind

jpeg wrote:no u dont get im saying someone can take a preset patch without editing it and play a dope melody with it; that what I mean by flip how u play it and how u use it onctect withthe other elements of ur song.

B-Wise wrote:

EnochLight wrote:I mean, comparing apples to apples - the original Juno 60/106 had mostly shit "presets". Like 90% of them were what most would consider unusable. But it was the remaining 10% - especially those classic pads, strings, and bass, that set it apart. I don't subscribe to the idea that presets aren't meant to be used - they absolutely are if you find yourself inspired by them. But in the very least, they're a great starting point.

You can use them, but the point I was making was that, don't expect most patches to be useful to most users & even if they were, then everyone will use them & then most will get sick of them same sounds. So in the end you're better off getting someone to make patches around your taste or roll up your sleeves & make your own.

I don't mind if most people used the same sounds because it will make original music stand out more easier. So it's a win-win.

EnochLight wrote:I mean, comparing apples to apples - the original Juno 60/106 had mostly shit "presets". Like 90% of them were what most would consider unusable. But it was the remaining 10% - especially those classic pads, strings, and bass, that set it apart. I don't subscribe to the idea that presets aren't meant to be used - they absolutely are if you find yourself inspired by them. But in the very least, they're a great starting point.

B-Wise wrote:You can use them, but the point I was making was that, don't expect most patches to be useful to most users & even if they were, then everyone will use them & then most will get sick of them same sounds. So in the end you're better off getting someone to make patches around your taste or roll up your sleeves & make your own.

I don't mind if most people used the same sounds because it will make original music stand out more easier. So it's a win-win.

EnochLight wrote:You say that, but then you'd be surprised at just how many synth presets are all over "original" classic and modern music. Just depends on what you do with them.

B-Wise wrote:How would I be surprised if I said there's presets that's been used over & over?
But your now missing my point of my if everyone used the same unedited presets no matter how good they are after a while Now it's just harder for that to happen since there's soooooo many options for presets - have fun!