[OFFICIAL] - MPC X & MPC Live Photos, Specs & Pricing

zangetsu01 wrote:Today something came to my mind and this guy explains exactly what it is:

At NAMM they still had to start production. They were too bussy making deals with distributors to anticipate how many units they should build for their first batch.

That's why they didn't have time for the average joe. That's why the whole thing (Akai booth) was closed to the public.

just my 2 cents

This sounds like a lot of overzealous, conspiracy theory BS, by someone who has way too much time on their hands. It annoyed the s**t out of me, to be honest.

Retail stores don't pay a goddamn red cent to the manufacturer until product ships. Then, they're invoiced; typically NET30. Akai might have gauged their manufacturing needs, based on preliminary orders, so they didn't overshoot demand, but they certainly didn't finance the production on pre-order dollars.

You want a device? Wait until it's in stores, or pre-order and WAIT. End of story, I can't stand whining artists.

Danoc wrote:@ill Green
Dudes were talking smack saying Roland and Nl had secrect weapons vs Akai at NAMM. I knew neither would show up with a legit standalone.

Roland set the bar too high with the MV. Anything less than the old MV feature list plus touchscreen, full i/o features including cv/gate, 2GB plus sample mem and full featured mastering, multisampling with everything as tight as the MV does and everyone is gonna be on the list of disappointed.

Old MV still has quite a few tricks up its sleeve - some that even the new MPC's won't do. Watch that video to see yourself. The Live and X has some features the MV doesn't have, but if you compare sheer amount of features in the MV that are already working flawlessly, the X and Live have a lot to compete with and better get this one right in software without bugs.

Even Maschine waited awhile before they got realtime time stretching i believe. MPC software too. MV had it for years.

I think Roland won't even consider a new MV. If the 2.0 on Akai's hardware works just right, then they are setting the bar too high for new Roland. MV series was pretty unique to their lineup.

They do have the right model to build up a new one from. I just don't think they have it in them to put out something that customers have been requesting since production stopped on the MV's. I don't think NI will do a standalone either. People have been requesting a standalone maschine since it first came out and it's been out a long time now. Since April 2009. Eight years of customers requesting a standalone. No sneak peeks yet and Akai already has the jump on both Roland and NI.

If I'm spending $2k on the X this year, not gonna want anything from Roland or NI anytime soon. Akai has hit the market at the right time with a standalone.

"Akai decides to announce the release of these units before NAMM."
Nope, they didn't do that.
There was the FCC leak but that definitely wasn't an official announcement by any means.

You want a device? Wait until it's in stores, or pre-order and WAIT. End of story, I can't stand whining artists.

You can't stand it.. Then don't listen.. Simple as that.. Or should I say end of the story..??

Fanu wrote:"Akai decides to announce the release of these units before NAMM."
Nope, they didn't do that.
There was the FCC leak but that definitely wasn't an official announcement by any means.

The Units where announced 1 week before NAMM.. Not that it matters that much..

Ah, true, true. Now I remember the video day. I stand corrected.

Anyways. Before NAMM or not, does that make a big difference…not sure.

But I understand why people are getting a bit cranky at this point. Announcing it back then in early Jan and (unofficially) saying it's not done in mid-March while it says Q1 springtime on the site (if I remember correct) is not a great look.
Why don't they post *something* about it for all those who are waiting...

What's up bro?
Yeah I checked out a few vids on the MV pretty dope. I just wasn't interested cause I had the MPC2000xl and I didn't get into the MV at all.





I like that it has a VGA on the back so you can add a screen,. that's what Akai should of done, being in standalone mode. That would of been dope! I think I would prefer the X over this though.

Hell yeah, you're right if I got the X I wouldn't even look at a Roland nor a NI standalone. I wouldn't even know anything about it! LOL I wouldn't care about its specs, I would be making this money LOL Just dudes were running their mouths over in GS about Roland and NI that's all. And now look stupid cause they ain't got nothing out on a stand alone. Why in the world would I get the X then switch over to another machine? Makes absolutely no sense. I could see NI making one, but it will apply to those who want a stand alone who has NI Maschine already.

Wormhelmet wrote:
If I'm spending $2k on the X this year, not gonna want anything from Roland or NI anytime soon. Akai has hit the market at the right time with a standalone.

Fanu wrote:Ah, true, true. Now I remember the video day. I stand corrected.

Anyways. Before NAMM or not, does that make a big difference…not sure.

But I understand why people are getting a bit cranky at this point. Announcing it back then in early Jan and (unofficially) saying it's not done in mid-March while it says Q1 springtime on the site (if I remember correct) is not a great look.
Why don't they post *something* about it for all those who are waiting...

Exactly.

It's not very Hip Hop to start stomping your feet because instant gratification isn't on today's menu.

Wormhelmet wrote:

Danoc wrote:@ill Green
Dudes were talking smack saying Roland and Nl had secrect weapons vs Akai at NAMM. I knew neither would show up with a legit standalone.

Roland set the bar too high with the MV. Anything less than the old MV feature list plus touchscreen, full i/o features including cv/gate, 2GB plus sample mem and full featured mastering, multisampling with everything as tight as the MV does and everyone is gonna be on the list of disappointed.

Old MV still has quite a few tricks up its sleeve - some that even the new MPC's won't do. Watch that video to see yourself. The Live and X has some features the MV doesn't have, but if you compare sheer amount of features in the MV that are already working flawlessly, the X and Live have a lot to compete with and better get this one right in software without bugs.

Even Maschine waited awhile before they got realtime time stretching i believe. MPC software too. MV had it for years.

I think Roland won't even consider a new MV. If the 2.0 on Akai's hardware works just right, then they are setting the bar too high for new Roland. MV series was pretty unique to their lineup.

They do have the right model to build up a new one from. I just don't think they have it in them to put out something that customers have been requesting since production stopped on the MV's. I don't think NI will do a standalone either. People have been requesting a standalone maschine since it first came out and it's been out a long time now. Since April 2009. Eight years of customers requesting a standalone. No sneak peeks yet and Akai already has the jump on both Roland and NI.

If I'm spending $2k on the X this year, not gonna want anything from Roland or NI anytime soon. Akai has hit the market at the right time with a standalone.

Its like Jim Stout said in that video, Roland can reissue the MV if they wanted to as it is and make it up to date with solid state harddrives for faster processing, touchscreen and maybe smaller compact size. Its revolutionary.

When the Ren first came out, Akai was fishing for ideas here and most of my feedback was experience from the MV. Not just me but a whole slew of others were saying "the MV can do this and that, I would like the Ren to do it too"

2.0 wouldn't exist without the MV

The MV is probably the most underrated sampler in sampler history.
I owned it just for a short while a year ago or so when a friend wanted to trade my Ren (that i wasnt using as I had got the Touch) for the MV, so I said yeah, I'll try it out, and I did. It's dope.
Did sell it as I had too much gear anyways, but it sounds good and has a lot of features. Actually kind of miss it. Loved the filtering using the faders and all.
Honestly, if it was slightly smaller, I might buy it again.

Seems like a lot of guys here would rather have a faulty Live/X today than a working one tomorrow. Just be patient people.

I said earlier in this thread (or maybe another) that the MPC X is basically everything a new release of the MV8800 was supposed to be. My only changes would be:

*Update hardware so it is faster
*A slightly bigger screen
*Keep the S760 Sample Engine
*Add Supernatural Sounds
*Allow us to add 2 virtual expansions
*Keep audio tracks as is but disk record instead of ram
*Word Clock
*8 outs STANDARD (I sold my MV8800 just because it was impossible to get an OP1 )
*256 Note Polyphony

Considering all that the MV8000/8800 did, that is a small list but my goodness, if they did this. If they paid Eric Persing to make special sample libraries for newer hardware.

The one thing I'd want is a brief update from Akai.
Not from their devs or such who may not even know the truth.

Thing is...silence hardly ever puts out a positive impression of the situation.
I mean, it CAN mean that we're super close, but when the announcement's been made and you hear nothing for two months, it may not necessarily look super convincing. I know there's been some videos, but…still.

It's not like people'd bust their balls if they did an update and said they're delayed the release a bit due to manufacturing issues, and now it's looking like May or whatever.

I'm sure most ppl would be happy about a quick little update. I mean, why not talk to the people who are your customers. That's one thing I dislike about Akai.

starmanwarz wrote:Seems like a lot of guys here would rather have a faulty Live/X today than a working one tomorrow. Just be patient people.

I know, I been preordering stuff for the past 10 years and never had I paid money upfront, I usually pay when its shipped. And usually the stuff announced at NAMM appears on the market around June and July, so I'm accustomed to the waiting game. Tascam seems to be the only company that announces something at NAMM and it appears 2 weeks later.

This release better be so tight that 2.01 and beyond should be feature add-ons than bug-fixes

I also dislike that about Akai. I dislike many things about Akai.

I'd like them to be more interactive and keep the hype going for as long as they need to finalize the hardware and software and also provide us with dates so all this speculation can finally end.

People believing random dates on random sites and even pre ordering is beyond me.

I hope they get it right this time and release solid products.