Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
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By Lampdog Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:25 pm
fooddude wrote:.... sterile sounding mpcs still sound good....

You can MAKE the new mpc's sound how you want, there's a GANG of tools to
do this.

S2400 is great imo. But, do you.
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By richie Thu Jun 29, 2023 9:59 pm
The S2400 does not depreciate.

Anything Akai comes out with depreciates with every incarnation.

Go collect cans, bottles, get your girl to open an only fans and get enough money to buy the MPC X and whatever else to want.
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By kja Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:34 am
They only depreciate because people expect them to come out with a new one.. once they figure out they have blown their load and this is pretty much it for the foreseeable future the prices will come back up.. they sold so many they flooded the streets.. now it is time to sit back and let people actually appreciate how sick they are and stop worrying about what could be next.. a lot of people bought them that thought it would be easy and had no idea what they were doing.. so they are trying to get rid of them.
Give it time.. modern mpc's are classic.. it will take time.
By B-Wise Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:02 am
kja wrote:They only depreciate because people expect them to come out with a new one.. once they figure out they have blown their load and this is pretty much it for the foreseeable future the prices will come back up.. they sold so many they flooded the streets.. now it is time to sit back and let people actually appreciate how sick they are and stop worrying about what could be next.. a lot of people bought them that thought it would be easy and had no idea what they were doing.. so they are trying to get rid of them.
Give it time.. modern mpc's are classic.. it will take time.

If people are "now" saying the MPC 1k/2500 sounds grimy & nasty, then I can't see how these current MPC won't be considered classics in the future. I guess to an MPC-fanboy all MPC's age like fine wine even the ones that were the most hated for their transparent sound back in the day. - Y'all do know this site still has the old threads when that hate for the 1k/2500 sound was first being expressed?
Soon people will be asking for an MPC 500 vintage mode :lol:
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By Menco Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:32 am
B-Wise wrote:
kja wrote:They only depreciate because people expect them to come out with a new one.. once they figure out they have blown their load and this is pretty much it for the foreseeable future the prices will come back up.. they sold so many they flooded the streets.. now it is time to sit back and let people actually appreciate how sick they are and stop worrying about what could be next.. a lot of people bought them that thought it would be easy and had no idea what they were doing.. so they are trying to get rid of them.
Give it time.. modern mpc's are classic.. it will take time.

If people are "now" saying the MPC 1k/2500 sounds grimy & nasty, then I can't see how these current MPC won't be considered classics in the future. I guess to an MPC-fanboy all MPC's age like fine wine even the ones that were the most hated for their transparent sound back in the day. - Y'all do know this site still has the old threads when that hate for the 1k/2500 sound was first being expressed?
Soon people will be asking for an MPC 500 vintage mode :lol:


People used to hate so hard on the 500, now every time when I see second hands pop up online it's gone in a matter of days. Some people even claim it sounds grimy :lol: :lol:
By Sir Snaxalot Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:09 am
fooddude wrote:
Sir Snaxalot wrote:Ever thought about selling the S2400 and just getting another 60? Sometimes we don't want to feel like we're going back to something, but really sometimes its a method of correcting. If you felt at home and most inspired to work on that machine, then why not go back to it? You could pair an SP404MK2 with it an have an exceptional combination. Just wanted to offer some counter thoughts.


Ha, yes of course. But, they are super expensive to re-buy one back. And I am also over the slow old process - floppies (not interested in floppy emulators, etc.), no usb connectivity, etc.

What I've noticed with modern machines (S2400) w/ usb or sd cards, I can experiment w/ diff samples easily, until I find stuff I truly like.

With the 60... it's like, I spent hours sampling stuff I think is gonna be good, but it doesn't really work with the track... but, I subconsciously feel I am obligated to use those samples (cuz of all the work sampling them) and force myself to use those samples, even if they aren't the best and most ideal. Make sense?


It makes perfect sense, I currently use a 60 and know exactly what you mean by having to commit to which samples you've sampled and trimmed already. I guess for me, its not so bad because I only sample drums, and not other melodic, groove, or harmonic content. I look at some of the benefits it does provide me though, in that it forces me to be truly intentful with what I'm doing.
By fooddude Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:23 pm
richie wrote:get your girl to open an only fans and get enough money to buy the MPC X and whatever else to want.


Lol
By fooddude Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:28 am
Who am I kidding. I can’t sell the Only authentic 12bit machine I own now (since I sold the 60 and S950).
It’s all about the sound anyways.

I’ll just treat the S2400 like all my other external synths - just a good sound module or rack sampler, with their inherent quirky UIs, lol. I guess like my old S950.

So its’ weird/odd UI, program editing, etc. shouldn’t even matter, lol.


So, the cheaper One it is! (and keep S2400)
…instead of selling the S2400 and getting an X.

This way, I’ll still possess a true 12bit machine.
By robleighton22 Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:06 am
I love my MPC One and S2400 combo, you made the right choice. Running the MPC One plugins through the S2400 adds some magic, particularly when sampled, pitched down, etc. The Mini D plugin and Juno plugin sampled via the S2400 sound on par to my Prologue, lol. Likewise when the Prologue is sampled via the S2400 then . Very good toys.
By fooddude Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:28 pm
robleighton22 wrote:I love my MPC One and S2400 combo, you made the right choice. Running the MPC One plugins through the S2400 adds some magic, particularly when sampled, pitched down, etc. The Mini D plugin and Juno plugin sampled via the S2400 sound on par to my Prologue, lol. Likewise when the Prologue is sampled via the S2400 then . Very good toys.


Nice! I'll have to look into the Mpc plug-ins too!
Never had a machine that had synth plug-ins before (since I've never used a DAW before).
I've seen one video of that Jura plug-in from Tubedigga tho. Sounds and looks super cool... esp since I make older-style house music.
By robleighton22 Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:57 pm
The pricing is a bit of a con, but I'd say the best ones are the Delay Pro, Mini D and Jura. Free ones - drum synth, Hype, Odyssey, Solina - all sound nice through a S2400. I also bought Fabric recently and it has some straighthp amazing sounds but major downside is load time for presets. The non rompers don't suffer that issue. Anyways, all this plus ability to sample synths to make keygroups, no shortage of sound sources. I think the One has the most sensible layout outside of the X. I actually didn't love the MPC Live as the layout was a bit limiting, it was bulky and the battery had no real world use case for me.
By B-Wise Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:23 pm
robleighton22 wrote:The pricing is a bit of a con, but I'd say the best ones are the Delay Pro, Mini D and Jura. Free ones - drum synth, Hype, Odyssey, Solina - all sound nice through a S2400. I also bought Fabric recently and it has some straighthp amazing sounds but major downside is load time for presets.

The most advanced plugin is OPX-4.
By dryad-66 Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:21 am
You don’t really need to make thing more complicated by investing in more plugs.there’s too much inside to flip and resample ect already.its a maze of choices.Overwelming.for me I just try to carve my sound but adding some effects/filters and some basic sequencing to see how far I can take my sound inside of the box.very tempting tho to get more……
By dryad-66 Sun Jul 02, 2023 7:27 am
But I’m one of those users who would prefer and stripped back OS with just sampling and extended synth/modulation features.you can still do a lot of that tho.just easy to get lost in plug ins and features.can all end up sounding rubbish if not controlled ))
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By hyena Sun Jul 02, 2023 9:13 am
B-Wise wrote:If people are "now" saying the MPC 1k/2500 sounds grimy & nasty, then I can't see how these current MPC won't be considered classics in the future.


i don't think so. you know why? old tech becomes obsolete, and that's universal, but dedicated obsolete tech can hold its value. current line mpc's are too bound to current computer software technology, so when that will move on, the old machines will go down in value much more than old gear that doesn't rely on a general usage operating system. this is only an opinion, but i'm ready to put some money on this bet.

it is in part psychological, i mean: the dx7 can be described as an old computer too, no? but the dx7 doesn't feel like a 1984 personal computer that makes sounds. current line mpc reflects contemporary software applications, in 10 years it will look really old, and almost nobody will keep an old laptop just to connect to the old mpc. on the other hand, you fire up an mpc60, a 4k, even a 1k today and it looks like the dx7, a dedicated musical instrument. it looks old? yes, but doesn't "feel" the same way as, example, maschine mk1 ... feel me? again, it's perhaps only a psychological effect, but i'm pretty sure it will go down this way.