Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By dustyslices Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:50 pm
Certified Beatz wrote:
dustyslices wrote:I have it SSH patched already :lol:


You bad boy :o :o

at first glance, it doesn't look that this SubFactory plugin comes with this update - (2.16 maybe ?)
will check it again later on - my ghidra is still chewing the binary. :)
By jpeg Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:54 pm
jaymack wrote:youtube O face onslaught

sorry, but the stems sound really bad.


yup it does sound bad;

akai probably should of held off on stems untill the hardware line has been refreshed with a more powerful processor that can actually handle a more intensive alogrithm.

so they took time out of 3.0 development resources to create this low quality stems in standlaone, they would of been better off focusing on 3.0 and then they could of come with stems later down the line, since most people use other software for that anyway, but i guess their marketing team was pushing for the features for mpc to generate aditional revenue.
By dustyslices Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:00 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:Hopefully it will be worked on, but ultimately it's using a dumbed down algorithm and just like standalone warping, they haven't seemed to have any improvements on that either.

Honestly - don't blame them, there is not much they can do with current hardware anymore.
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By Mike Boogie Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:10 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:
Hopefully it will be worked on, but ultimately it's using a dumbed down algorithm and just like standalone warping, they haven't seemed to have any improvements on that either.


Yep, better plug that PC back in, according to the release notes:

Efficiency and Quality:
On-device stems are created using the zPlane Stems Efficient algorithm, desktop MPC uses zPlane Stems Pro for highest quality.
By 40Beatz Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:11 pm
Kinda Shitty Algorithm but its bcuz the Hardware is limited. A nice somewhat solution to the Tinny Low quality sound is to Add a Lil Reverb and PARA EQ to the Program or Stem...to give it a "Quality Chop"...

Just my $0.02
By dustyslices Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:12 pm
Mike Boogie wrote:
Yep, better plug that PC back in, according to the release notes:

Efficiency and Quality:
On-device stems are created using the zPlane Stems Efficient algorithm, desktop MPC uses zPlane Stems Pro for highest quality.

interesting... could swear stems were spleeter based :shock:
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By MGoolas Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:17 pm
Standalone sounds unapologetically bad ngl. It will probably be most useful for extracting bass lines , drum hits and sample snippets as one shots and such but I don't think I will be using that on an important sample loop. Way too many ghost frequencies lurking in each stem.
Pro on the other side is usable, even on music that was sampled from rotten vhs movies.
By jpeg Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:19 pm
dustyslices wrote:Honestly - don't blame them, there is not much they can do with current hardware anymore.

so u have to question why they even went the stems standalone route knowing that the current line of CPU's cannot handle it.
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By NearTao Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:23 pm
People demanding things without *really* knowing what they want.

I'd also wager that it'll be something they want experience with now, when they ultimately come out with a more powerful device that can handle it. The feedback they get on standalone now will likely inform the next generation.

What I was expecting was more that they'd use the higher quality separation, but limit the length of time you could split... I guess this is fine, but it will probably lead to some strange results.
By B-Wise Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:26 pm
40Beatz wrote:Kinda Shitty Algorithm but its bcuz the Hardware is limited. A nice somewhat solution to the Tinny Low quality sound is to Add a Lil Reverb and PARA EQ to the Program or Stem...to give it a "Quality Chop"...

Just my $0.02

People always say limitations breeds creativity, maybe this poor quality is a good thing in our high-tech modern age... :lol:
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By kja Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:27 pm
Just after I updated I got a trial version of vocal distortion for ten days, I got it to start trial but I can't download the plug.. anyone else show vocal distortion plug standalone?
By dustyslices Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:33 pm
jpeg wrote:
dustyslices wrote:Honestly - don't blame them, there is not much they can do with current hardware anymore.

so u have to question why they even went the stems standalone route knowing that the current line of CPU's cannot handle it.

because of stupid people... and fear of their pushback agains them
do you remember what were the expactations after first leak of SE (MPC XL back then) ?
By dustyslices Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:36 pm
kja wrote:Just after I updated I got a trial version of vocal distortion for ten days, I got it to start trial but I can't download the plug.. anyone else show vocal distortion plug standalone?

it been bundled back in march with 2.14 already... it's not released yet ?
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By kja Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:44 pm
dustyslices wrote:
kja wrote:Just after I updated I got a trial version of vocal distortion for ten days, I got it to start trial but I can't download the plug.. anyone else show vocal distortion plug standalone?

it been bundled back in march with 2.14 already... it's not released yet ?

Not standalone.. I'm wondering if it a glitch or something? I never use the software so I've never used it or stems tell today.