Support and discussion for all of Akai’s modern standalone MPCs including the MPC X / X SE, MPC Live 1, 2 & 3, MPC One / One+, MPC Key 37/61.
By KaoticShock Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:12 am
J.O.BEATS wrote:
MPD MPK RAY wrote:I'm just saying look at their VST lineup they dip into....

They call this thing a "STANDALONE SYNTHESIZER KEYBOARD" :shock: .........

GAME OVA! Only a matter of time until they surpass the Fantom X patches expectations!

"its just gone be a MPC Live wita MPK attatched!"

:lol: :fku: nerd/trolls are rollin in their cages rn
:smoker:


That vst lineup you highlighted is already in stand alone mode. So as it sits, it’s still the same as an mpc live and MPK attached



Not exactly, the MPC Key 61 looks like it ships with at least 16 plugins (8 new ones that were leaked). Even the new firmware update doesn't include these plugins, so it may be possible that there's some additional integration or features that haven't been announced yet. We're still not completely sure of the I/O either.

Also, MPD MPK Ray posted pics of some the original AIR Virtual Instruments (Structure, Xpand, B33 and Loom). These haven't been included in the MPC software yet, but it is possible they could be included with the MPC Key 61. I'm still waiting to see what all of the features are before I make any hasty generalizations.
By Fre$hBreath Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:40 am
TonyO. wrote:Not very few. There’s literally one human being left on God’s green earth that knows how to fix an ASR10 properly (Syntaur). Right now I have a broken EPS Keyboard in my closet that’s completely flatlined with no hope getting revived. But I agree, it’s sad nothing comes close to ASR10. After all these years ASR10 is still the GOAT.


Nah, There's more, the dude who runs TheeSoniq is literally an engineer who worked for the original Ensoniq company in Pennsylvania and relocated to California when Emu and Ensoniq merged.
By J.O.BEATS Sun Jun 12, 2022 3:41 am
Not exactly, the MPC Key 61 looks like it ships with at least 16 plugins (8 new ones that were leaked). Even the new firmware update doesn't include these plugins, so it may be possible that there's some additional integration or features that haven't been announced yet. We're still not completely sure of the I/O either.

Also, MPD MPK Ray posted pics of some the original AIR Virtual Instruments (Structure, Xpand, B33 and Loom). These haven't been included in the MPC software yet, but it is possible they could be included with the MPC Key 61. I'm still waiting to see what all of the features are before I make any hasty generalizations.[/quote]

Oh that makes more sense. On my iPhone I only see the top pictures he posted that shows the “new Air” lineup

My apologies. Carry on
By Certified Beatz Sun Jun 12, 2022 5:06 am
No matter what it's new it's 2k different vut to us old heads it's the same if u have a live one or X .. all u will need is your midi keyboard to use it the same way.. not sure why to buy if u have one already. It looks great but to add with a current MPC is redundant...
By otoc Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:51 am
I’m really hoping it has MIDI out via USB this time. The Live, One, and X do not. That would make it the ultimate centerpiece of a songwriting/production studio.
By TonyO. Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:20 am
When you turn of the lights, does it turn them off entirely, or do they still light up Red/Yellow/Green for velocity? I'm not in front of my MPC to try it right now.


Can someone answer the above poster’s question? I want to be sure the pad lights can be completely disabled. I’ve heard you can turn the pad lights off by adjusting the color of the light, but then the lights will come back on for certain modes of operation. Anyone know if by changing the pad lights color, there’s a way to make it so that the pad lights are completely disabled in all modes and never come on? I’d like to rip the pad lights out if I could.
By Elijah Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:38 am
TonyO. wrote:
When you turn of the lights, does it turn them off entirely, or do they still light up Red/Yellow/Green for velocity? I'm not in front of my MPC to try it right now.


Can someone answer the above poster’s question? I want to be sure the pad lights can be completely disabled. I’ve heard you can turn the pad lights off by adjusting the color of the light, but then the lights will come back on for certain modes of operation. Anyone know if by changing the pad lights color, there’s a way to make it so that the pad lights are completely disabled in all modes and never come on? I’d like to rip the pad lights out if I could.


MPC has a pad color function, but it is not possible to completely disable the pad LEDs.
By TonyO. Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:29 pm
MPC has a pad color function, but it is not possible to completely disable the pad LEDs.[/quote]

Putting my $2,000 dollars I had saved for the MPC Key 61 back in my wallet. :Sigh: Having annoying bright colorful rainbow glowing pad lights (that can’t be disabled!!!) flashing and shining up against my face and illuminating directly into my eye pupils and distracting me as I’m trying to compose on a keyboard unfortunately is a deal breaker for me. Akai, I suggest in a future software update you should allow users to disable those god awful ugly pad lights :Sigh: I don’t get why this new generation likes to have their audio gear flashing every color of rainbow lights looking like a god damn UFO. Do I have to choose between going blind or having an epileptic seizure just so I could adapt to the modern MPC workflow :Sigh:
By jpeg Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:50 pm
the vacuum synth looks the most interesting but i wonder if all these new features will start to bloat the OS; I think they should give people to the option to uninstall features that that they dont want.
By Straker Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:00 pm
jpeg wrote:the vacuum synth looks the most interesting but i wonder if all these new features will start to bloat the OS; I think they should give people to the option to uninstall features that that they dont want.

No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU.
Some people here are just being delirious.
If key61 has same ram and cpu of Mpc, just forget about it.
By SakisX Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:09 pm
Still, I don't think other keyboard players would prefer it over the Roland Fantom-06 . In this category quality sounds/presets is the key ....
Also , for current mpc users ,could you explain to me why you'll buy it ? What's the benefit over your current mpc ?
Don't get me wrong , I hope sales will be great for Akai since it will help improving the MPC line (and Force)
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By MPD MPK RAY Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:23 pm
Straker wrote:
jpeg wrote:the vacuum synth looks the most interesting but i wonder if all these new features will start to bloat the OS; I think they should give people to the option to uninstall features that that they dont want.

No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU.
Some people here are just being delirious.
If key61 has same ram and cpu of Mpc, just forget about it.


Yesterday your mouth watered for a FOOT sandwich....
Today this(THE NEW STANDARD FOR LINUX BASED PLATFORMS AKA MPC) is out.
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It's InMusic(Alesis) Hoe! 8)
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:fku: :nod: :smoker:



Back on schedule/topic..


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READ it says SYNTHESIZER
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By KaoticShock Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:31 pm
Cockdiesel wrote:Akai has a long way to go to even be able to think they can step into the arena with the older Ensoniq, emu or even Akai samplers. They will not fill that space with flashy lights and cut down versions of the generic air vsts. Roland at least acknowleded an analog filter in their flagship, electron recently as well with the Syntakt. even a 1 to 1 port of the Alesis ion is a step further than the synths offered. The architecture is lacking for the level of sound design work machines 30+ years ago were able to achieve.

Not trying to be a hater, this will do well even if just a port of the MPC OS but we need to be realistic about the devolution in many areas.



I completely agree with this point. The 4K, my Roland Fantom X, the ASR-10, and the Alesis Ion all have more sophisticated features than the MPC Synths. Even my 10 year old Mininova has a decent mod matrix!

Still no strum, phrase sequencer, Z-series functions, 8 sample layers in the keygroup engine, FM algorithms, True "Skip Back Sampling" (not that retrospective record mess, totally different feature). I love my MPCs, but I feel like the software is still 10 years behind even if it is only 5 years old.
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By MPC-Tutor Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:36 pm
TonyO. wrote:
When you turn of the lights, does it turn them off entirely, or do they still light up Red/Yellow/Green for velocity? I'm not in front of my MPC to try it right now.

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Yes, you can turn off pad colours by selecting 'Fixed > none' in the pad colour screen. This will also disable the velocity based colours. However, the colours will still appear if you enable pad perform mode and any other screen where pad colours are used to indicate/highlight a specific pad, e.g. browser assign, pad copy etc.
By KaoticShock Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:42 pm
"No way key61 standalone can have vacuum or loom or mini grand or other Air deep synths.
Not enough Ram, not enough powerful CPU"

I wouldn't make any hasty generalizations until we see an Andy Mack video.

Remember, Xpand!2, Mini Grand, and DB-33 only require 1GB of RAM. The rest of the AIR VSTi's only require 4GB, so it is possible that they either upgraded the RAM with a new SoC, or they made optimized versions of older plugins, just like how Vaccum Pro became Tubesynth.

Fabric XL may very well be a scaled down version of Structure. Don't doubt Akai, I think they still have some rabbits to pull out of the hat.