With 2.7 is out of the way, what do you think 2.8 should be?

Profoundly said!!!

Frisbi wrote:It's the strongest side of Mpc, for me.

LMAO LOL let me be honest. I can't stand Avid and l will never buy PT again. But dammit the HDX system is terribly DOPE! Even when the HD system was out it was dope. That Le series and how Avid treated us was wack. When you have a system that doesn't tax your computer and you can throw as many plugins at it that you want you are covered. Certified PT engineers be killing it with that.

LOL man the X/Live is as transparent as Casper the friendly ghost

CharlesRandolph wrote:
If you don't think Pro Tools is awesome, it's because you've never actually used an full spec'ed Avid Pro Tools HDX system.

In 3 years, they'll call the MPC LIVE/X warm and a classic.

Well it was LE. and I'm sure they were tired of supporting older systems. Let's not forget, that it was Apple that forced most of that gear to junk piles. The full system with dedicate controllers and I/O is still very much relevant, in movie, television, videos games, and the audio side of things.

Sure there are many different plug in and software DAWS out there. But if you take your project to another space, and they don't have the same Software DAW, Instruments, or Plug. It can really hurt things. As you know that's why we work with stems.

Truly this is the wall, that is hurting the MPC Software and Hardware. I remember a time when every home, project, major studio had a MPC. Now that's no longer the case. Everything is fragmented, which is why Akai integrated Ableton, simply due to their user adoptions rate.

Ableton, Logic, Pro Tools, and Cubase, are the big 4 with FL Studio a distant 5th. So if I'm Akai Pro, I'm going to integrate with one of them. Studio One, Reason, Reaper, DP and Bitwig are behind and not worth the dev time.

Danoc wrote:LMAO LOL let me be honest. I can't stand Avid and l will never buy PT again. But dammit the HDX system is terribly DOPE! Even when the HD system was out it was dope. That Le series and how Avid treated us was wack. When you have a system that doesn't tax your computer and you can throw as many plugins at it that you want you are covered. Certified PT engineers be killing it with that.

LOL man the X/Live is as transparent as Casper the friendly ghost

CharlesRandolph wrote:If you don't think Pro Tools is awesome, it's because you've never actually used an full spec'ed Avid Pro Tools HDX system.

First of all, I'm looking forward to having conversations and/or debates without you resorting to ad hominem personal attacks. Now that we've got that out of the way..

I've been in a Pro Tools setting a few times. Honestly, I never got why people thought it was so awesome - because it's really not. But don't take my opinion - go do a search and see what the most popular DAW are today. I'll wait. To be clear, I'm not saying it's not good for what it's meant for: recording engineers. But for an actual musician? A person who wants to be inspired and actually produce??! Come on man - PT is like the worst of the worst.

CharlesRandolph wrote:Please give us your audio examples of what Top Notch Plugin sound like.
Here's a simple audio break: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LlSOM ... V-MdwEOQAY

Spend some time outside of this forum and the MPC bubble. You'll find a plethora of what top notch plugins sound and look like. But again, don't take my advice - visit any music plugin review source in the past 10 years. You won't find Air all over the reviews, that's for sure.

Danoc wrote:LMAO LOL let me be honest. I can't stand Avid and l will never buy PT again.

That's because you are a smart person.

CharlesRandolph wrote:Well it was LE. and I'm sure they were tired of supporting older systems. Let's not forget, that it was Apple that forced most of that gear to junk piles. The full system with dedicate controllers and I/O is still very much relevant, in movie, television, videos games, and the audio side of things.

Sure there are many different plug in and software DAWS out there. But if you take your project to another space, and they don't have the same Software DAW, Instruments, or Plug. It can really hurt things. As you know that's why we work with stems.

Truly this is the wall, that is hurting the MPC Software and Hardware. I remember a time when every home, project, major studio had a MPC. Now that's no longer the case. Everything is fragmented, which is why Akai integrated Ableton, simply due to their user adoptions rate.

Ableton, Logic, Pro Tools, and Cubase, are the big 4 with FL Studio a distant 5th. So if I'm Akai Pro, I'm going to integrate with one of them. Studio One, Reason, Reaper, DP and Bitwig are behind and not worth the dev time.

Danoc wrote:LMAO LOL let me be honest. I can't stand Avid and l will never buy PT again. But dammit the HDX system is terribly DOPE! Even when the HD system was out it was dope. That Le series and how Avid treated us was wack. When you have a system that doesn't tax your computer and you can throw as many plugins at it that you want you are covered. Certified PT engineers be killing it with that.

LOL man the X/Live is as transparent as Casper the friendly ghost

If you want a daw to generate sounds, Reason is n.1.
If you want an advanced looper, Ableton is n.1
If you want a multitrack to record, PT is n.1 and Studioone n.2
You see? We all have different opinions but you pretend your opinion to be universal truth.

Frisbi wrote:You see? We all have different opinions but you pretend your opinion to be universal truth.

He's good at that. It's a travesty. I feel embarrassed for him.

EnochLight wrote:I've been in a Pro Tools setting a few times. Honestly, I never got why people thought it was so awesome - because it's really not. But don't take my opinion - go do a search and see what the most popular DAW are today.

Why search, when I can just call up people I know, who actually develop the software.

EnochLight wrote:I'll wait. To be clear, I'm not saying it's not good for what it's meant for: recording engineers. But for an actual musician? A person who wants to be inspired and actually produce??! Come on man - PT is like the worst of the worst.

Again a TOOL is meant for however, you decide to use it.

EnochLight wrote:Spend some time outside of this forum and the MPC bubble. You'll find a plethora of what top notch plugins sound and look like. But again, don't take my advice - visit any music plugin review source in the past 10 years. You won't find Air all over the reviews, that's for sure.

Again, you don't know how I spend my time or what gear I use. Also I take reviews with a grain of salt. Because most of the reviews, do not actually use the plug in in real world applications and over a significant amount of time. I listen to my ears and other professional who actually uses the gear, not talk about it.

Frisbi wrote:If you want a daw to generate sounds, Reason is n.1.
If you want an advanced looper, Ableton is n.1
If you want a multitrack to record, PT is n.1 and Studioone n.2
You see? We all have different opinions but you pretend your opinion to be universal truth.

You are talking about personal preference, I'm talking about USER Adoptions rates. (Numbers not Opinion) Please read again.



Also if you use Reason for sounds, Ableton for looper, PT for multi-track. Why get a MPC LIVE when those 3 programs cover all your needs?

CharlesRandolph wrote:Why search, when I can just call up people I know, who actually develop the software.

Because your rose-tinted glasses are clearly blinding you to the world at large. I also know people who develop the software. Does that mean my opinion is more valid now?

CharlesRandolph wrote:Again a TOOL is meant for however, you decide to use it.

Well of course it is, but there are better tools out there. And clearly more popular tools that more users prefer, because reasons...

CharlesRandolph wrote:Again, you don't know how I spend my time or what gear I use. Also I take reviews with a grain of salt. Because most of the reviews, do not actually use the plug in in real world applications and over a significant amount of time. I listen to my ears and other professional who actually uses the gear, not talk about it.

Well that's what we're all hear for, Charles: to talk about it. I never insinuated that I know how you spend your time or what gear you use. But you do seem committed to a myopic perspective at times, which makes me wonder just how often you do spend outside of the bubble.

I think the important lesson is that: there are other opinions other than your own that are just as valid. You need to step back and realize that, let people say their piece, and leave it at that.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:If you want a daw to generate sounds, Reason is n.1.
If you want an advanced looper, Ableton is n.1
If you want a multitrack to record, PT is n.1 and Studioone n.2
You see? We all have different opinions but you pretend your opinion to be universal truth.

You are talking about personal preference, I'm talking about USER Adoptions rates. (Numbers not Opinion) Please read again.

Off topic:
Everything is fragmented, which is why Akai integrated Ableton, simply due to their user adoptions rate. Ableton, Logic, Pro Tools, and Cubase, are the big 4 with FL Studio a distant 5th. So if I'm Akai Pro, I'm going to integrate with one of them. Studio One, Reason, Reaper, DP and Bitwig are behind and not worth the dev time.

Also if you use Reason for sounds, Ableton for looper, PT for multi-track. Why get a MPC LIVE when those 3 programs cover all your needs?

Because I don't use computer anymore and I am happy to play my Mpc Live.
This I cannot explain it by numbers.
And I never liked ProTools even if it's the best multitrack out there.
Also I cannot explain it by numbers.
Don't take it as an offence, I always read your posts and your suggestions, I have really nothing against you but sometimes it's very hard to accept you when you put yourself as a universal judge.
Come on, man, relax.
It's nice to debate here, I like the people here. Let's make it funny and intereating for us all.

Frisbi wrote:Because I don't use computer anymore and I am happy to play my Mpc Live.

Well that's all that's important.

Frisbi wrote:Don't take it as an offence, I always read your posts and your suggestions, I have really nothing against you but sometimes it's very hard to accept you when you put yourself as a universal judge. Come on, man, relax. It's nice to debate here, I like the people here. Let's make it funny and intereating for us all.

I'm not a universal judge and I'm pretty relaxed. It's funny because I talk and joke all the time, but some call it trolling. Also, I talk and network with people on here and they understand what I'm saying. Because they have the same experiences and want to improve and grow. That's the difference in mentality.

Honestly this is why some people make it a living doing music and some people don't. It's about living it, with purpose and focused intent.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:Because I don't use computer anymore and I am happy to play my Mpc Live.

Well that's all that's important.

Frisbi wrote:Don't take it as an offence, I always read your posts and your suggestions, I have really nothing against you but sometimes it's very hard to accept you when you put yourself as a universal judge. Come on, man, relax. It's nice to debate here, I like the people here. Let's make it funny and intereating for us all.

I'm not a universal judge and I'm pretty relaxed. It's funny because I talk and joke all the time, but some call it trolling. Also, I talk and network with people on here and they understand what I'm saying. Because they have the same experiences and want to improve and grow. That's the difference in mentality.

Honestly this is why some people make it a living and some people don't. It's about living it.

Oh come on man, I am 46, I know these things, sometimes I can also be like you but then I put an end to it.
Sometimes is tiring for a lot of people.
So I stop it.
It's better to be friendly and laugh about yourself.
Just a suggestion.
Of course you do what you want, man.

Frisbi wrote:Oh come on man, I am 46, I know these things, sometimes I can also be like you but then I put an end to it.
Sometimes is tiring for a lot of people.
So I stop it.
It's better to be friendly and laugh about yourself.
Just a suggestion.
Of course you do what you want, man.

It's a mentality and it can't be turned on and off. Perhaps, this is your hobby so your way of thinking is more relaxed. I have mentors who are +60 and if you think I'm direct, don't talk to them. Also what makes you think I'm not having fun? Nevertheless let's get back to the talking about 2.8 like we promised Tutor.

In 2.8 it should fully support USB audio interfaces like Quick Strike discovered.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:Oh come on man, I am 46, I know these things, sometimes I can also be like you but then I put an end to it.
Sometimes is tiring for a lot of people.
So I stop it.
It's better to be friendly and laugh about yourself.
Just a suggestion.
Of course you do what you want, man.

It's a mentality and it can't be turned on and off. Perhaps, this is your hobby so your way of thinking is more relaxed. I have mentors who are +60 and if you think I'm direct, don't talk to them. Also what makes you think I'm not having fun? Nevertheless let's get back to the talking about 2.8 like we promised Tutor.

In 2.8 it should fully support USB audio interfaces like Quick Strike discovered.

Fine.
But it's not just my hobby and I tell you it's not an easy life.
But thanks for the reply.

side note:
team AiR > AIR