Lampdog wrote:New x wont have 64 pads.
New x will have same size pads as last x and all live’s.
B-Wise wrote:
If you never worked with the Force who couldn't understand how much of improve having access to 64 pads are for sample chops, as 4 octave keyboard 8x8 clip-matrix that can quickly copy & delete clips from the pads.
The Force is still better designed for 3.0 than the L3, IMO. This new X will be big step up as it'll akai will kinda be forced into making more Force-like, where as the L3 they made more compromises due to lack of space the X & Force has.
jpeg wrote:B-Wise wrote:
If you never worked with the Force who couldn't understand how much of improve having access to 64 pads are for sample chops, as 4 octave keyboard 8x8 clip-matrix that can quickly copy & delete clips from the pads.
The Force is still better designed for 3.0 than the L3, IMO. This new X will be big step up as it'll akai will kinda be forced into making more Force-like, where as the L3 they made more compromises due to lack of space the X & Force has.
We already have 64 pads for chops with 4 banks of 16 pads, and now with Live 3 we have the 64 sounds on one bank if needed.
so the force style pads have been made obsolete by the new quadrant pad innovation
Both Force and Live 3 cater to 3.x equally well, having those 64 little pads does not equate to a device making better use of the new software.
Lampdog wrote:A long while back we saw Key61 and Force kybd diagrams.
The Key61 became real, I wonder what happened to that Force Keyboard.
Will it ever become “real” and do yall think it’s something Force peeps would want?
Also, that space between controls and keys……
I remember seeing the Key61 diagram and instantly thinking “I want it”.
dustyslices wrote:Out of all new devices which are referenced in the firmware (ACVA3 / ACVR2 / ACVM2 / ACVK / ACVC) , only ACVK (Force6) and 'new' X (ACVC) have the 'Open ACVx Hardware Emulation Window' function implemented.
I suppose one could go through all supporting ".so" files looking for clues but I guess it's not worth the effort.
jpeg wrote:B-Wise wrote:
If you never worked with the Force who couldn't understand how much of improve having access to 64 pads are for sample chops, as 4 octave keyboard 8x8 clip-matrix that can quickly copy & delete clips from the pads.
The Force is still better designed for 3.0 than the L3, IMO. This new X will be big step up as it'll akai will kinda be forced into making more Force-like, where as the L3 they made more compromises due to lack of space the X & Force has.
We already have 64 pads for chops with 4 banks of 16 pads, and now with Live 3 we have the 64 sounds on one bank if needed.
so the force style pads have been made obsolete by the new quadrant pad innovation
Both Force and Live 3 cater to 3.x equally well, having those 64 little pads does not equate to a device making better use of the new software.
jpeg wrote:so the force style pads have been made obsolete by the new quadrant pad innovation.
jpeg wrote:dustyslices wrote:Out of all new devices which are referenced in the firmware (ACVA3 / ACVR2 / ACVM2 / ACVK / ACVC) , only ACVK (Force6) and 'new' X (ACVC) have the 'Open ACVx Hardware Emulation Window' function implemented.
I suppose one could go through all supporting ".so" files looking for clues but I guess it's not worth the effort.
what is the significance of the Open ACVx Hardware Emulation Window function being implemented?
also u did not mention the ACVG having this feature? why would the new Live 3 be excluded from this?
Ordinairy_Rebel wrote:Those 16 pads with 4 quadrants can in no way offer the same functionality as those 64 pads can. But I’m starting to think Akai won’t give us force users a new Force and will force us one of those new Mpcs if we want to upgrade. (Pun intended)
jpeg wrote:Ordinairy_Rebel wrote:Those 16 pads with 4 quadrants can in no way offer the same functionality as those 64 pads can. But I’m starting to think Akai won’t give us force users a new Force and will force us one of those new Mpcs if we want to upgrade. (Pun intended)
they recently updated the force software, so I see no reason why they wont make a new force
