Audio tracks used for vocals?

I know that audio tracks only exist within sequences and can't be used in song mode. Is it possible to convert song to new sequence and then add audio tracks that way?

Anybody else want to use audio tracks to record vocals and make a complete track all within 2.0?

Yes, you can convert a song to a single sequence and then add further audio tracks across that.

J.O.BEATS wrote:I know that audio tracks only exist within sequences and can't be used in song mode. Is it possible to convert song to new sequence and then add audio tracks that way?

Anybody else want to use audio tracks to record vocals and make a complete track all within 2.0?

When I get my 'X' I will use the audio tracks for Vocals. Just hope that it's implemented in an efficient way.

zangetsu01 wrote:

J.O.BEATS wrote:I know that audio tracks only exist within sequences and can't be used in song mode. Is it possible to convert song to new sequence and then add audio tracks that way?

Anybody else want to use audio tracks to record vocals and make a complete track all within 2.0?

When I get my 'X' I will use the audio tracks for Vocals. Just hope that it's implemented in an efficient way.

Word. I'm keeping the Ren for the house but still not sure if I'll pick up the Live for the road. But if recording and doing basic editing of vocal is easy to do all within the box I'll scoop it up. Hopefully as more people get their hands on the Live there will be some honest feedback and reviews on recording vocals

MPC-Tutor wrote:Yes, you can convert a song to a single sequence and then add further audio tracks across that.

Thanks Tutor!

im just the opposite. i decided to get the LIVE for ROAD (its been at the "office" with me everyday since ive had it) and will keep the X for the lab since its bulky to move around. the LIVE is really super portable. I have it in a pelican case #1550 for now and may get a soft case for it but i like the construction of the pelican though...

marctronixx wrote:im just the opposite. i decided to get the LIVE for ROAD (its been at the "office" with me everyday since ive had it) and will keep the X for the lab since its bulky to move around. the LIVE is really super portable. I have it in a pelican case #1550 for now and may get a soft case for it but i like the construction of the pelican though...

Pelican cases are too expensive, get the MCM briefcase with customizable foam and half the price.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/22-24115

my career is in film and television so i have lots of pelican cases. they are not expensive to me.

Converting a song to one sequence is useless if your existing sequences are @ different tempos. The new, single sequence will play back at one BPM, effectively throwing off your whole grid.

Better to convert song to a single audio track, first.

Icepulse wrote:Converting a song to one sequence is useless if your existing sequences are @ different tempos. The new, single sequence will play back at one BPM, effectively throwing off your whole grid.

Better to convert song to a single audio track, first.

It would be far better if Akai just reintroduced the legacy MPC capability of adding TEMPO CHANGE events. That way if you convert a song to a sequence, it automatically adds tempo change events where required, plus you retain full MIDI edit-ability that would be lost if bouncing everything down to audio. TEMPO events would also allow for recording tempo changes via Qlinks automation.

Maybe I missed that. Are you certain that TC events are absent? It would seem like a no-brainer.

Icepulse wrote:Maybe I missed that. Are you certain that TC events are absent? It would seem like a no-brainer.

If you go to List editor in the computer GUI and click on the 'add event' icon, there is no tempo change option. Similarly, there's no option to add 'sequence tempo' as a controllable parameter in any of the Q Link edit modes (that I can see).

J.O.BEATS wrote:I know that audio tracks only exist within sequences and can't be used in song mode

Does Akai (or the MPC user base) hate the idea of song mode or something?

I'm fairly new to MPC and the non-linear workflow of song mode is awesome for final arranging. But you can't seem to record audio or make any final arrangement changes you typically want to make at that stage in the process - like adjust the global swing, change the pitch to suit a singer's vocal range (warp), change the tempo and have samples/audio warped.

As someone who's new to MPC, song mode is one of the coolest, fastest things about MPC - having the ability to go back and change anything from a pad to a sequence to the overall arrangement without having to redo anything, is amazing (and totally unique as far as I can tell). Convert to sequence seems to break this flow if you need to then tweak the arrangement (which you always do).

Hence the question, does everyone hate the idea of song mode? I guess I'm confused why it hasn't seen more love (like audio tracks) from Akai or why the accepted practice is to convert to a sequence.

Hope that makes sense, sorry if I've got that all wrong!

Cheers

Ben

cmscss wrote:Hence the question, does everyone hate the idea of song mode? I guess I'm confused why it hasn't seen more love (like audio tracks) from Akai or why the accepted practice is to convert to a sequence.

I agree, I just don't quite understand Akai's current clear dislike of Song Mode. I had assumed that audio tracks could be recorded across the entire song arrangement within song mode (which I believe was how the MPC5000 did it). Confining audio tracks within each individual sequence seems odd when you consider the existance of song mode, but Akai do seem intent on making 'convert song to seqeunce' to be the default way of working these days, as this is also the way to export stems etc.

But as you say, this makes further arrangement a pain in the backside. I do wonder if anyone at Akai is actually making proper music with these MPCs, i.e. from beginning through to public release, or do they just twiddle about with 2 bar sequences and loops during their lunch break. There's so many workflow oddities, proper head scratching stuff.

well... everybody is just talking about vocals? i mean exactly for vocals recording, the MPC is definetly NOT my choice, cause here i need a lot of takes (perfect take with a DAW "take-system" to warm up and find the right timbre. I feel its more a cool tool to catch ideas on the fly. i am thinking of using it for stems of exisiting DAW-songs or record a few sounds from my outboard gear... will test that later... the first weeks for me were just like: YEAH, i have cool pads again after years of missing my 2500 )

(uh by the way: songwriting just in MPC? i also will just collect different ideas and then easily "audio drag and drop them into my DAW for real arranging... for my workflow the MPC is more like a ideafinder, than really like a DAW-replacer )