Now I get why people hate Akai

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Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By BeatWilson Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:01 pm
I know this is ridiculous and a lot of people know this 90% will not happen BUT....

If NI Made a Standalone Maschine (Ive seen a custom one made years ago) then it would be over. If this very far fetched idea happens i would hope they would change the style of pads, maybe the screen, add in and outs, more midi, more Ram than the MPC Live(which shouldn't be too hard) sd card reader or USB. Add a Up Fader and Id be SO DOWN. But since even NI Kontrol mixer only has a Hardware filter and everything else they create is midi, I don't have expectations of them ever making something like that.

I don't know how Akai didn't just take all the features from the MPC 2500 or 4000, then go from there. Its like they jumped or skipped steps... Its just a huge turn off... If there were an updated version of an older product I expect the old features plus the new ones. Not to say they haven't done something right... Its just definitely half baked...

Ya gotta think... in the video game industry, a ps4 console is 350.00 Canadian.. it has 8 Gigs of Ram! Check out there processors and price. I find the pricing of electronic musical instruments out of whack with close to the same technology but different pricing in other departments because ones for music and ones for something else. So much technology released half baked in every department(computers, video games, software, music hardware and software), over priced because its trending and not because its actually specs...

Kinda lame world of marketing we live in... FFS

This being said i think I'm still gonna stay on preorder since i only paid 10% and i hope they add the basic features they are missing. A lot of the new stuff as well i don't care for. Just the basics, automation editing and time stretch. Then id be happy-isn
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Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By Ill-Green Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:03 pm
I knew they were scummy since 1.0 but it certainly appeared that they turned over a new leaf back in January so I bit into the MPC Live. There were so much praises and happiness from everyone interested back then. Things began to sour with fake dates, fake tweets and fake customer service that Akai and InMusic is just not worth it to invest in now. People who truly preordered in January, still haven't got their orders fulfilled yet and I'm talking about the MPC Live customers, people that should've been served first. A lot of things not right.

However, I'm glad I got the Live and for the price I paid for, I say its worth it for my kind of work. The coming soon stuff, I really have no use for so its no loss to me, but dammit, if its printed on the box and not in the product then its a scam. Point blank range.

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By chino Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:08 pm
Cockdiesel wrote:sad.... The trending topic on the MPC FORUM is about hating AKAI. THAT sez alot about the company......

just think this would be awhole other story if they didnt have some fake a$$ "leak", and continued to lie to its customers for almost a year since then. I seen the leak and intially thought oh well itl be a year or two before I see that... But no within a few months it was expected, and announced by them.

How many actual units do you think there of the live and x out in the wild? 500? Maybe a thousand? I know nothing about product testing but you would assume that the first 100 atleast produced would be used for testing and "beta" purposes. but no they created a a fake supply problem to increase the demand with an unfinished product... And it back fired. especially with its long time users.

I am not complaining about the live, I love it. However I was never aware AKAI was so scummy. Kind of wish someone else would have made it, and done it right. Like others here have said it seems like AKAI dont give a **** about what they are doing, much less what they are doing to their customer base in a saturated market of controllers, hardware etc...


The reason Akai doesn't care is because the legacy MPC users are NOT their target demographic. If you watch the many Akai vids staring 'the one and only- Andy Mac'… he indirectly says Akai is targeting the electronic music producers/DJs. Thats where the money is so Akai being a business is following the market trends. Do I agree with what Akai is doing? HELL NO!!

Akai under the inMusic Brand umbrella corporation is just a business trying to sell a product. That product happens to be music software/hardware 'instruments' (I'm using the 'instrument' word loosely here because most of these new Akai products are a shameful representation of an instrument!).

Akai under inMusic Brand is definitely NOT a company run by musicians for musicians. That is painfully clear!!!

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By CFM01 Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:30 pm
Seems a lot of hated on here... I assume the same people hate alesis, m-audio, sonivox and a bunch of other companies? All I can say if you hate them don't buy them.

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By chino Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:54 pm
CFM01 wrote:Seems a lot of hated on here... I assume the same people hate alesis, m-audio, sonivox and a bunch of other companies? All I can say if you hate them don't buy them.


I'm speaking for MYSELF here…. I have NO hatred for Akai. I'm simply pointing out facts. For the record, I do own a legacy(pre-inMusic Brand ownership) Alesis MasterControl Studio interface and it works GREAT. I haven't experienced any freezes, crashes or bugs of any kind. There is one product from Akai that I absolutely love, own & use daily. That product is the Akai MPK249.

The MPK249 is very well built & I use it to control my Studio One DAW. I have not used or installed any of the included Akai software so maybe that is why my experience has been so positive!!

I also agree that if you don't like a company and/or a product then the best solution is to NOT buy the product. Fortunately, I followed your advice and my $$$ is still in the bank where it belongs. :nod: :-D

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By Cockdiesel Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:10 am
I never had a preorder and got live before ALOT of people including people who ordered 6 months ago...

It's a great product even with the missing features, but how they are dealing with this sticks out further than how cool the live is. People are voicing their frustrations and concerns and I believe its more than justified.

We all use MPC's or atleast have interest in them here. We want AKAI to change, At some point most of use fell in love with a one of a kind sampling midi production center, it shouldnt be too hard to please us in terms of information and being straight forward. some people gripe about missing features but I imagine if they were more open about the issues they are obviously having, most of those people would be understanding. I know I would. Heck why should I be so vocal about how shitty they are? I got mines.

It's the principle of the whole ordeal. All we can do is say something with the hope things may change. or at the very least let people know about who they are dealign with before they get thier hopes up and strung along for god knows how long.

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By chino Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:34 am
Cockdiesel wrote:People are voicing their frustrations and concerns and I believe its more than justified.

We all use MPC's or at least have interest in them here. We want AKAI to change, At some point most of use fell in love with a one of a kind sampling midi production center, it shouldnt be too hard to please us in terms of information and being straight forward. some people gripe about missing features but I imagine if they were more open about the issues they are obviously having, most of those people would be understanding. I know I would. Heck why should I be so vocal about how **** they are? I got mines.

It's the principle of the whole ordeal. All we can do is say something with the hope things may change. or at the very least let people know about who they are dealign with before they get their hopes up and strung along for god knows how long.


^^^ Some very good points! I fell in love with the idea of the Ren ("iconic MPC workflow," great hardware, etc.) BUT damn the software was/is so poorly implemented!! I also thought the MPC Live was going to be my "portable MV8800 sampling dream machine". Once again Akai falls short but that's OK. I have other gear to use in the meantime. The current state of the Akai company & their products is disappointing but maybe there will be a positive change in the future?

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By Yorgos Arabatzis Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:35 am
Ehh... NI is indeed building a standalone as we speak many rumors about it in their forum...Basically i think many companies will follow the standalone route..Waiting something from Ableton too..AKAI though showed the way 1st and that alone deserves a huge respect!If at the end they'll deliver that's another case..
Me i didn't even preorder and was one of the first to crab the Live in Europe from Juno..Got a mail from them that they had 2 in stock pulled the trigger like a flash and that was it 8)
Now i'm having a blast with this thing!Sure many things are missing but we're in a beta state and i knew that when i've placed the order..Last few days i'm using it as DJ decks in clip launch mode and love it!Sick stuff!
BeatWilson wrote:If NI Made a Standalone Maschine (Ive seen a custom one made years ago) then it would be over. I

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By CFM01 Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:59 pm
Standalone from Ableton? Ableton have never made their own hardware even push Push was made in cooperation with Akai. I don't know even if they have the personal. So I'm not sure about that! NI? Well they want to rule the music world, so most likely something will emerge :worthy:

Akai need to sort the bugs but like every other software company currently on the planet they use first adopters as beta testers. Apple being one of the largest guilty companies doing this! Yes, there are features clearly labelled as coming soon and we may have to wait a Bitwig time for them to appear. Sounds a bit like Waldorf where features on their synths never appeared.

People forget... basically the MPC Live/X is a PC - like all PC's it's bound to get its knickers in a twist at some point! Gosh I'd never be able to moan never again if Ableton never crashed on my PC.

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By Moho Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:08 pm
chino wrote:
CFM01 wrote:Seems a lot of hated on here... I assume the same people hate alesis, m-audio, sonivox and a bunch of other companies? All I can say if you hate them don't buy them.


I'm speaking for MYSELF here…. I have NO hatred for Akai. I'm simply pointing out facts. For the record, I do own a legacy(pre-inMusic Brand ownership) Alesis MasterControl Studio interface and it works GREAT. I haven't experienced any freezes, crashes or bugs of any kind. There is one product from Akai that I absolutely love, own & use daily. That product is the Akai MPK249.

The MPK249 is very well built & I use it to control my Studio One DAW. I have not used or installed any of the included Akai software so maybe that is why my experience has been so positive!!

I also agree that if you don't like a company and/or a product then the best solution is to NOT buy the product. Fortunately, I followed your advice and my $$$ is still in the bank where it belongs. :nod: :-D

I agree if you don't like a company / product don't buy it,
but then move on don't write 150 posts on it :hmmm:
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Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By MPC-Tutor Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:10 pm
CFM01 wrote:Standalone from Ableton? Ableton have never made their own hardware even push Push was made in cooperation with Akai.


Push 1 was Akai, Push 2 was made by Ableton. Of course these days that doesn't mean much as it was probably still outsourced to a third party, but that's probably not a big deal, it might even be preferable to outsource rather than try building it in-house. That way Ableton concentrate on the software, the hardware specialists concentrate on the hardware. Akai are currently trying to do both themselves and for the software at least, they seem out of their depth.

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By curtis Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:11 pm
as a MPC ONE user, I could not agree more

they should hire UX people, cos the interface is horrendous to use
everything is all over the place and makes no sens

- the main view is such a bad design

- then you go to track view, everything is missing

- they manage to have a "menu"....then a "shift menu" that brings other stuffs, it makes it so complicated and confusing

- it's like everything is made to avoid live performances

now of course you can get use to it... but as a noob, AKAI has the worst interface EVER !!

after one year of MPC ONE...I just hate it....the interface is horse shit

in the end we talk about purchased hardware 750$ to be precise

WE ARE THE CUSTOMERS...And you AKAI tend to forget about this

next gear will certainly not be AKAI, that's for sure

Re: Now I get why people hate Akai

By 40Beatz Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:18 pm
Lol I'll buy it from you for a couple hundred! Show you how to really use it lol. Last thing i would do is use the One for a Live Performance!

What other Standalone Drum Machine /Sampler (in that price range) can compare the One? (*crickets*) :lol:
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