Cockdiesel wrote:...FYI, most newer stuff like beatmaker 3 and machine are based off the mpc workflow.
should sell it quite well.. 
the right person for any MPC.. If this was the case you would clearly not have said this on the MPC forum.. 
Fudge wrote:I'm selling mine too. I'd been so looking forward to this but it is a real dissapointment. I've also cancelled my order for the X as well.
Cockdiesel wrote:Really? I know it's different and some menu diving vs the 4k I got, but it hasn't been much of an issue for me. What features are you missing out on?
Fudge wrote:I've spoken to AKAI and all they can say is that these are functions that may appear in future updates but they can't say when. It could be two years time, it could be next week, it could be never.
Fanu wrote:Fudge wrote:I've spoken to AKAI and all they can say is that these are functions that may appear in future updates but they can't say when. It could be two years time, it could be next week, it could be never.
This is my main annoyance with Akai.
There's absolutely no idea ever when some features are going to come, ever, if they are going to come at all.
They are slow, and it's damn hard to get a word from them regarding anything.
Elektron, for example, comments on users' posts regarding anything on their forum, so ppl know what to possibly expect and so on.
Live is an OK device and no doubt you can make hits with it if you have it in you, but some missing features are just unacceptable IMHO (lack of PDC in software, inability to copy and paste specific midi notes on standalone, inability to delete specific automation on standalone, inability to edit any automation in any way on standalone…).
You can live with those for sure, but if you're a person with a somewhat extensive experience in using gear, those will cause a bit of a WTF reaction in you, as it's 2017, after all, and this is supposed to be a professional product.
A beautiful touch screen…that doesn't let you see let alone touch automation. A standalone that is crippled with some of its main features so that you have to use it in controller mode to access them. Damn.
Let's say you have automated three different parameters on a track...and one of them is a cutoff you did earlier. You decide it's not that good and want to get rid of it. Well, you can…with the expense of all automation. You can't delete just the cutoff…everything will go. I love doing automation in my music, but this is a turn-off (yeah you can go to software to fix it but that destroys the "standalone vibe").
TBH I haven't been using my Live that much; I have a lot of other gear to use, and I'm just sort of waiting to see if Akai will do any moves with updates.
If it was the center of my studio or one of my very few devices, I'd use it more, but I'm lucky to have a lot of music-making stuff, and I'm sort of waiting till Live can catch up with them a bit.
FrankWhite4Mayor wrote:It's aggravating and mysterious that the update hasn't dropped yet.
Consider yourself as the best feature on the unit. New gear or old gear is not going to create music for you. Some of the best music was created on less featured gear. I seen guys making beats on a five gallon bucket. So it's not the problem with the gear. It's a problem with you. 
Heavie wrote:When I was a young man. My sisters consider me ass being a dog. Any girl with a nice booty, I will chase them. I will be in a relationship at times and it doesn't matter. I'll be out on a prowl for the next hot ass. One of my sister pulled me up and said, you chasing all the these girls for looks alone. But none of them is going to satisfy you first hand, as well as the one you know well in a relationship. At the moment, I paid her no mind. But as I got older, it all started making sense. It's the little things a woman does for you in a relationship, that a woman in a one night stand or someone you just met is not willing to do.
Same applies to every new mpc or any new gear that catches your eye. On the outside, it has all the new knobs, button, screens and specs to draw you in. You ready to throw rocks at your old gear. Soon as you get your hands on the shiny new unit, you're disappointed. It's not doing all the little things your old gear is doing. We all suffer from this. Some more than others. New gear is to expensive to not do your homework.
There are important rules to consider before buying. 1) Do I really need it and how is this latest and greatest is going to help my work flow and create better music. 2) Can I put in the time waiting for old features, new features and bug fixes. 3) Is this unit going to be worth anything, If I decide to get rid of it after waiting around for old features, new features and bug fixes. 4) Are you willing to except the learning curve. 5) If the unit is missing a feature you need. Can you figure out a work around to get a close result of the missing feature. 6) What kind of support are you going to get when you run into problems. 7) Are people that purchase the past models happy with there purchase.
There are even more rules. But if you can follow a couple of these rules. You might save yourself the time and trouble.
