Stereo bpm sync pattern delay

Since there is no bpm sync ping pong delay, I forward my idea:
A stereo pattern delay in pattern delay style of Strymon Timeline.
That is a bpm sync ping pong delay with different pan patterns to choose.
It would be perfect to get rid of my Timeline and save space on my table

Frisbi wrote:Since there is no bpm sync ping pong delay, I forward my idea:
A stereo pattern delay in pattern delay style of Strymon Timeline.
That is a bpm sync ping pong delay with different pan patterns to choose.
It would be perfect to get rid of my Timeline and save space on my table

Get a calculate and you can set the ping pong delay sync yourself. Below is an example at 120 BPM. However you can do this for any BPM by dividing the BPM by the 60,000 (MS) Hope this helps.

60,000 (MS) divide by 120 (Track BPM) = 500 (4/4 Note MS Delay)
Divide 500 (MS Delay) by 4 = 125 ms (1/4 Note Delay)
Divide 500 (MS Delay) by 2 = 250 ms (1/2 Note Delay)
Divide 500 (MS Delay) by 3 = 166 ms (1/3 Note)

CharlesRandolph wrote:

Frisbi wrote:Since there is no bpm sync ping pong delay, I forward my idea:
A stereo pattern delay in pattern delay style of Strymon Timeline.
That is a bpm sync ping pong delay with different pan patterns to choose.
It would be perfect to get rid of my Timeline and save space on my table

Get a calculate and you can set the ping pong delay sync yourself. Below is an example at 120 BPM. However you can do this for any BPM by dividing the BPM by the 60,000 (MS) Hope this helps.

60,000 (MS) divide by 120 (Track BPM) = 500 (4/4 Note MS Delay)
Divide 500 (MS Delay) by 4 = 125 ms (1/4 Note Delay)
Divide 500 (MS Delay) by 2 = 250 ms (1/2 Note Delay)
Divide 500 (MS Delay) by 3 = 166 ms (1/3 Note)

great thanks for hint.
But honestly it would be much easier in 2018 to put a bpm sync, isn't it?

Frisbi wrote:great thanks for hint.
But honestly it would be much easier in 2018 to put a bpm sync, isn't it?

Yes, but if it's not there, this is way to do it.

The MPC Software has been out for over 6 years now and in that time they haven't added any new effects, it's certainly time for some additions - noise gate and limiter spring to mind, side chain compression, maybe noise reduction, better reverbs, etc.

MPC-Tutor wrote:The MPC Software has been out for over 6 years now and in that time they haven't added any new effects, it's certainly time for some additions - noise gate and limiter spring to mind, side chain compression, maybe noise reduction, better reverbs, etc.

Yes I agree.
I just would need a sync ping pong and a good stereo reverb.
I think it is time to think about it.
Also some resonance on phasers would not be bad.

MPC-Tutor wrote:The MPC Software has been out for over 6 years now and in that time they haven't added any new effects, it's certainly time for some additions - noise gate and limiter spring to mind, side chain compression, maybe noise reduction, better reverbs, etc.

Agree, but that is going to be up to Akai Pro to provide that service in standalone. Hopefully they will.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

MPC-Tutor wrote:The MPC Software has been out for over 6 years now and in that time they haven't added any new effects, it's certainly time for some additions - noise gate and limiter spring to mind, side chain compression, maybe noise reduction, better reverbs, etc.

Agree, but that is going to be up to them to provide that service in standalone. In software, as you know there are tons of choices.

I am of course referring to the 'Internal Effects' here, i.e. the effects available to us regardless of being in standalone or controller. It seems odd that they didn't implement obvious stuff like a noise gate, especially now we have audio tracks.

MPC-Tutor wrote:
I am of course referring to the 'Internal Effects' here, i.e. the effects available to us regardless of being in standalone or controller. It seems odd that they didn't implement obvious stuff like a noise gate, especially now we have audio tracks.

I think standalone was a second thought, perhaps their focus has always been on controller mode and software 2.0. Standalone was just something to stand out against the Maschine and Push.

CharlesRandolph wrote:

MPC-Tutor wrote:
I am of course referring to the 'Internal Effects' here, i.e. the effects available to us regardless of being in standalone or controller. It seems odd that they didn't implement obvious stuff like a noise gate, especially now we have audio tracks.

I think standalone was a second thought. Perhaps their focus has always been on controller mode and software 2.0 because that is where the power of the device is. Standalone seems like it was just something, to stand out against the Maschine and Push.

I think standalone was a second thought. Perhaps their focus has always been on controller mode and software 2.0 because that is where the power of the device is. Standalone seems like it was just something, to stand out against the Maschine and Push.[/quote]

I dont agree at all.
I think most of the people bought it to use it standalone and replace computer based music production.
You dont pay so much money for just a controller.
Maybe its not a complete replacement of computer yet, but its on the way to be it.

Frisbi wrote: I dont agree at all.
I think most of the people bought it to use it standalone and replace computer based music production.

Replacing personal computer productions is a bit to late. Pandora Box is open.

Frisbi wrote: You dont pay so much money for just a controller.

Actually people pay a good price for interface/controller

Frisbi wrote:
Maybe its not a complete replacement of computer yet, but its on the way to be it.

They have to really beef up the specs to replace a computer. That fact that we can't use VST or VSTi in standalone mode demonstrates that. You want a basic Stereo bpm sync pattern delay and it's missing.

For Akai Pro you can tell by their development, that they are focused on controller and computer. All their efforts are going into the MPC 2 Software. Think about it, the LIVE is just the Touch MKII with a battery and hard drive. However once connected to a computer the Live and Touch functions exactly the same.

If i remember the TOUCH can still send data and control to the mpc software2 from the USB without the power supply. However, the screen does not turn on. So adding a battery to LIVE fixed that issue when used as a controller.

I think Akai make a lot of this up as they go along - I don't think 'standalone' was initially on the roadmap but they soon realised that the punters were craving it.

I'm not convinced Akai are able to compete with Push and Maschine on the pure controller front, they are certainly light years behind Ableton when it comes to the maturity of the software. Better that they stick with the standalone/hybrid model and hope Ableton or NI don't decide to make their own standalone units as that could get interesting (although I don't think they will bother).

I wonder how many people with third party controllers are buying the MPC Software? I really haven't seen much chatter about this and Akai arent exactly pushing the boat out with the marketing. I still think the perception is that the MPC Software is too buggy and immature to compete with the more established software solutions. Hopefully Akai are not going to get fixated on cramming in pointless bells and whistles though as the existing features still need plenty of work.

MPC-Tutor wrote:I think Akai make a lot of this up as they go along - I don't think 'standalone' was initially on the roadmap but they soon realised that the punters were craving it.

I'm not convinced Akai are able to compete with Push and Maschine on the pure controller front, they are certainly light years behind Ableton when it comes to the maturity of the software. Better that they stick with the standalone/hybrid model and hope Ableton or NI don't decide to make their own standalone units as that could get interesting (although I don't think they will bother).

I wonder how many people with third party controllers are buying the MPC Software? I really haven't seen much chatter about this and Akai arent exactly pushing the boat out with the marketing. I still think the perception is that the MPC Software is too buggy and immature to compete with the more established software solutions. Hopefully Akai are not going to get fixated on cramming in pointless bells and whistles though as the existing features still need plenty of work.

I agree, Albeton and NI software are way ahead. The funny thing is Akai Pro had Ak-Sys and they were right there. But they let it slip through their fingers. However, that was another time and another company.

MPC-Tutor wrote:I wonder how many people with third party controllers are buying the MPC Software?

I know colleagues who bought it just to transfer over older mpc projects. It's much faster than tracking out everything.

You guys are crazy if you don’t think stand-alone mode is a priority. Look at all the marketing, the standalone challenge, it is the big feature of these devices.

Second, the MPC Software is the same software that is running on the device. Some features are disabled in standalone and it has a touch UI vs a GUI but it is the same code running.